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From: David Mark on 22 Jul 2010 21:07 On Jul 22, 8:55 pm, Andrew Poulos <ap_p...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On 23/07/2010 9:23 AM, David Mark wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 22, 7:13 pm, Andrew Poulos<ap_p...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> On 23/07/2010 8:46 AM, Alan Gutierrez wrote: > > >>> David Mark wrote: > >>>> On Jul 22, 6:14 pm, Alan Gutierrez<a...(a)blogometer.com> wrote: > >>>>> David Mark wrote: > >>>>>> On Jul 22, 8:12 am, "rf"<r...(a)z.invalid> wrote: > >>>>>>> "David Mark"<dmark.cins...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>news:93a879bd-f6b5-42fe-a6a7-1ee2f87d4556(a)g1g2000pre.googlegroups.com... > > >>>>>>>> "This newsgroup is not a help desk" > >>>>>>> And it's also not a place to advertise ones wares. > >>>>>> Not necessarily. If it is of interest to JS developers... > >>>>> It is in bad taste. > > >>>> It's one post (out of over 5,000). Get over it. > > >>> I'm offering feedback. It is in bad taste. > > >> I don't think there's much wrong with a small developer putting an ad in > >> for their services every once in a while. Especially when the developer > >> spends so much time "helping" others in this group. > > > Thanks. :) But what do the quotes indicate? I have helped lots of > > people, though many of them resisted my efforts furiously, right up > > until the point of the inevitable epiphany. > > Yes, precisely. Sometimes helping others means giving them a kick in the > pants (it happened to me at least once when I was insistent on coding > something stupidly). > Some people learn and do better; some people chant dubious rhetoric to ease the pain of endless futility. A currently popular number goes something like: "Awww, UR just jealous coz I use jQuery and UR trying to take their tools." Or something like that. :)
From: Garrett Smith on 22 Jul 2010 23:36 On 2010-07-22 04:44 PM, IncaRedible wrote: > Alan Gutierrez wrote: > >> David Mark wrote: >>> On Jul 22, 3:23 pm, Matt Kruse<m...(a)thekrusefamily.com> wrote: >>>> On Jul 22, 6:44 am, David Mark<dmark.cins...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> >>> As pathetic as a known jQuery apologist (and virtual basket-case on >>> his worst days) wasting time in a thread that is none of his concern? >> >> I'm sorry. I didn't know that you were the man who owned USENET. Is this >> thread any of my concern? May I post in it. > > Do you think that you're adding to the discussion, or simply venting your > hostility? comp.lang.javascript is an unmoderated newsgroup and so although anybody can post anything, anyone else may comment if he feels that post is off-topic or inappropriate. Anyone who is pointing out that a post is off-topic is, as DM put it, "not minding [his] own business." Those individuals are proactively discouraging such discussions and probably for good reasons, such as to encourage more productive discussions. -- Garrett
From: David Mark on 23 Jul 2010 05:02 On Jul 23, 3:33 am, SteveYoungGoogle <stephen.jo...(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > On Jul 22, 1:44 pm, David Mark <dmark.cins...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > "This newsgroup is not a help desk" is likely a familiar refrain for > > anyone who has spent time in it. I enjoy advising people here when I > > have the time, but like all who do similar, I cannot be expected to > > solve (or even attempt to solve) every problem that floats in here. > > Personally, I would be happy to pay you not to answer my posts. > What posts would those be? In any event, it's on the house. :)
From: SteveYoungGoogle on 23 Jul 2010 06:49 On Jul 23, 11:02 am, David Mark <dmark.cins...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 23, 3:33 am, SteveYoungGoogle <stephen.jo...(a)googlemail.com> > wrote: > > > On Jul 22, 1:44 pm, David Mark <dmark.cins...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > "This newsgroup is not a help desk" is likely a familiar refrain for > > > anyone who has spent time in it. I enjoy advising people here when I > > > have the time, but like all who do similar, I cannot be expected to > > > solve (or even attempt to solve) every problem that floats in here. > > > Personally, I would be happy to pay you not to answer my posts. > > What posts would those be? In any event, it's on the house. :) I stopped posting to c.l.j because you invariably snipped my posts and turned the thread into either rant against jQuery (which, by the way, I have never used just as I have never used any other framework or library) or into an advertisement for your latest fad/project. I could give you many examples such as here http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.javascript/browse_thread/thread/d5eb5cbd0436f202/c7466c3598b7ab41?q=mark&lnk=ol&# where I begged you not to get involved and let others answer but to no avail. So eventually I stopped posting, as I suspect have so many others. For your information I am not a EMCAScript developer, I am a Microwave Radio Engineer and several years ago I decided I wanted to learn EMCAScript in order to provide microwave link planning tools, for free, on the Web. The Line of Sight tool is here http://members.chello.at/stephen.joung/indexDistanceElevation.html and the Link Planning tool is here http://members.chello.at/stephen.joung/indexMW_Distance20.html But I soon learned that you have a real anger directed at newcomers or anyone who asks a question that you consider to be simple and rather than let someone else answer you feel duty bound to insult the questioner and his question. Im afraid this is what has made EMCAScript newcomers stay away in droves and without fresh blood c.l.j. has become stale. In my opinion its mainly down to you and this is why I sometimes cannot stop myself from knocking you off the pedestal you have put yourself on. Cheers, Steve.
From: Kenneth Tilton on 23 Jul 2010 10:36
SteveYoungGoogle wrote: > On Jul 23, 11:02 am, David Mark <dmark.cins...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On Jul 23, 3:33 am, SteveYoungGoogle <stephen.jo...(a)googlemail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On Jul 22, 1:44 pm, David Mark <dmark.cins...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> "This newsgroup is not a help desk" is likely a familiar refrain for >>>> anyone who has spent time in it. I enjoy advising people here when I >>>> have the time, but like all who do similar, I cannot be expected to >>>> solve (or even attempt to solve) every problem that floats in here. >>> Personally, I would be happy to pay you not to answer my posts. >> What posts would those be? In any event, it's on the house. :) > > I stopped posting to c.l.j because you invariably snipped my posts and > turned the thread into either rant against jQuery (which, by the way, > I have never used just as I have never used any other framework or > library) or into an advertisement for your latest fad/project. I could > give you many examples such as here > http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.javascript/browse_thread/thread/d5eb5cbd0436f202/c7466c3598b7ab41?q=mark&lnk=ol&# > where I begged you not to get involved and let others answer but to no > avail. So eventually I stopped posting, as I suspect have so many > others. Why didn't you use a killfile entry? That's what I do since I know that I lack the will power to ignore the ding dongs. Works well. I agree, however, that this group is a wasteland compared to other groups where one can usually get help in spite of the ever-present ding dongs in any group, and that it may well be because of the pack of hyenas led by Mr. Mark. kt -- http://www.stuckonalgebra.com "The best Algebra tutorial program I have seen... in a class by itself." Macworld |