Tiger user wants to know how to upgrade?
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From: None of your business on 11 Jul 2010 17:03 In article <305053e0-2b8a-4e04-8adb-3332b79e258a(a)t5g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, Tony <henree21(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I have 2 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo 160 Gb White Imac > Memorey is 2 Gb 667 Mhz DDR2 SDRAM > > I thinks its time to upgrade. Here are my questions... > > Can I go right up to Snow Leopard? Yes. > Is there a way I can keep all my files folders pictures and music and > have it be there after I upgrade? Back everything up _first_ in case there's a problem updating. Then do either an inplace upgrade install, which will upgrade your system to 10.6, or an archive install, which will put your old system software into a folder named 'previous system' and install a new system, using your old home directory and settings. Note that you will have to have enough space on your hard drive to hold two versions of the OS to make this work. Once you're sure that everything works, you can delete the 'previous system' folder. If you want to go to entirely too much trouble, erase your hard drive and do a clean install and then restore your files from your backup. > > All answers are very appreciated. I am a newbie when it comes to these > things... no problem.
From: None of your business on 11 Jul 2010 17:06 In article <2ed7466f-7f6a-4f6a-bc35-860f3316bed8(a)m17g2000prl.googlegroups.com>, Tony <henree21(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The Apple website says I have to get the Mac Box Set is this true? no. Not unless you want to spend more money than you have to. The standard US$30 install DVD should work without problems. The only real reason to buy the Box Set is to get the latest version of iLife and iWork. if you don't want/need them, then just get the retail OS DVD.
From: MartinC on 12 Jul 2010 08:23 None of your business wrote: > no. Not unless you want to spend more money than you have to. The > standard US$30 install DVD should work without problems. Just saw this thread, one question: Is it really true that the "boxed set" and "upgrade" DVDs are identical? I remember some early reports, that the "upgrade" DVD does install on any *empty* volume and on any volume with *Leopard* - but not on/over any volume with Tiger or earlier. The boxed set version, however, installs on every volume. If this is true then one can still (technically, leaving out possible legal issues) buy the upgrade and install from Tiger, but only on a fresh formatted volume and then migrate the original data from a backup. The "install over" and "archive & install" options would be restricted to Leopard systems. Right? Wrong? (I can't really remember...)
From: David Empson on 12 Jul 2010 09:35 MartinC <noreply(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > None of your business wrote: > > > no. Not unless you want to spend more money than you have to. The > > standard US$30 install DVD should work without problems. > > Just saw this thread, one question: > > Is it really true that the "boxed set" and "upgrade" DVDs are identical? Depends what you mean by the "upgrade" DVD. There are three distinctly labelled DVDs for every recent version of Mac OS X: 1. Install DVD 2. Upgrade DVD 3. CPU Drop-in DVD All of these have the same coloured label on the DVD (e.g. the Snow Leopard ones have the Snow Leopard picture on them). The only visible difference is the wording on the left side, which says one of the above three. (There are also machine-specific DVDs, which are grey in colour and mention a specific model. I'm ignoring them for now.) There are several package variants which include the Install DVD: 1(a). Retail, single licence. 1(b). Retail, family pack. 1(c). Mac Box Set, single licence. 1(d). Mac Box Set, family pack. (The Mac Box Set only exists for Leopard and later.) All of these include an identical Mac OS X DVD which says "Install DVD" on it. The only difference is the packaging, labelling on the package, other included DVDs (in the Mac Box Set) and applicable portion of the licence agreement. The family packs allow installation on up to five computers in one household. The single licences allows installation on one computer. There is nothing in the wording of the licence agreement which says that the "Retail" edition (sold by Apple for US$29) is any different to the "Mac Box Set" edition (sold by Apple for U$169, including iLife and iWork) as far as usage restrictions are concerned. There is also no technical difference between the DVDs: the retail and Mac Box Set editions of the Snow Leopard "Install DVD" will install on a bare computer, or on top of Tiger or Leopard. There is only one difference: Apple's web site specifically describes the "retail" DVD as "an upgrade for Leopard users", and they further imply that Tiger users are supposed to buy the Mac Box Set. I cannot see anything in the licence agreement which actually requires this. It seems Apple is just trying to nudge Tiger users into buying a more expensive product and to also upgrade iLife and iWork, as they are likely to be running older versions. However, I know people who have attempted to purchase the "retail" DVD to upgrade a Tiger machine, and the dealer would not sell it to them, insisting they had to buy the Mac Box Set. This may just be a policy of some local dealers - I don't know what the situation is at an official Apple retail store (we don't have any in New Zealand). The online store cannot know, of course. To avoid any potential legal/licencing issues, these people ended up buying a second hand copy of Leopard and the the retail edition of Snow Leopard. Leopard was not installed - it was put away and only used in case it was needed for proof of ownership. Snow Leopard was installed directly on top of Tiger, using the "retail" Snow Leopard DVD, thus proving it doesn't actually check for Leopard. I wish Apple Legal had done a better job of this and Apple had their web site descriptions in sync with the product labelling and licence agreement. Then there wouldn't be any ambiguity. As for the other two I mention above: The Snow Leopard DVD which is labelled "Upgrade DVD" is the one Apple supplied to people who specially ordered it because they bought a computer within the weeks leading up to the release of Snow Leopard, or shortly after its release, and the computer didn't include Snow Leopard. This DVD was never sold as a retail product. The Snow Leopard licence agreement clearly identifies this product as only being for installing Snow Leopard on top of your existing Leopard installation on a single computer, or on a group of computers for which a single copy of the DVD was purchased. I've had a brief look at one of these DVDs, it appears that it doesn't do any technical checks to confirm that there is a copy of Leopard on the computer: it works just like the Install DVD, but actually using it to install Snow Leopard on any computer other than one for which it was purchased is a clear violation of the licence agreement. This differs from the Leopard and earlier editions of the Upgrade DVD, which did check that the preceding version of Mac OS X was installed, and refused to let you install them on a bare system, or on top of the second previous major version (or earlier). The Snow Leopard DVD which is labelled "CPU Drop-in DVD" is the one that was included in the box with computers sold just after the release of Snow Leopard, which still had Leopard preinstalled. This one is not explicitly covered in the general licence agreement for Snow Leopard, but the intention is clear: it is supposed to work just like the Upgrade DVD and is only for use on the computer with which it was supplied. I haven't seen one of these yet for Snow Leopard, but the Leopard edition did check for the previous system, just like the Upgrade DVD. It might include an additional licence agreement which clarifies its usage. Neither the "Upgrade DVD" nor "CPU Drop-in DVD" is supposed to be sold separately - they belong to a particular computer (the "Upgrade DVD" can belong to a group of computers, which complicates things if you want to sell one of them). The same goes for the original DVDs that are supplied wtih a Mac - they belong to that computer are not to be sold separately. > I remember some early reports, that the "upgrade" DVD does install on any > *empty* volume and on any volume with *Leopard* - but not on/over any volume > with Tiger or earlier. I don't remember any such reports, and assuming that you mean "retail" (not "upgrade"), then I've already established that this is wrong. The retail DVD will install on any compatible Mac, with no check of previous OS. I haven't done a full test of the "Upgrade DVD" (or the "CPU Drop-in DVD"). > The boxed set version, however, installs on every volume. > > If this is true then one can still (technically, leaving out possible legal > issues) buy the upgrade and install from Tiger, but only on a fresh > formatted volume and then migrate the original data from a backup. > > The "install over" and "archive & install" options would be restricted to > Leopard systems. There are no such options in the Snow Leopard installer. It always used an appropriate installation method: full install if there is no system, upgrade if there is an older system version, replacement of files if reinstalling Snow Leopard on top of itself. -- David Empson dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz
From: AES on 12 Jul 2010 13:14
In article <1jljm07.1ftslk51w8wlnuN%dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz>, dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote: > > All of these include an identical Mac OS X DVD which says "Install DVD" > on it. The only difference is the packaging, labelling on the package, > other included DVDs (in the Mac Box Set) and applicable portion of the > licence agreement. > > The family packs allow installation on up to five computers in one > household. > > The single licences allows installation on one computer. > Does this imply that there is _no_ meaningful way to prevent the purchaser of single license DVD from using it as a family pack? Or is Apple able to learn that you've done this if more than one of the five members attempts to interact with an Apple Store or any of Apple's online services, based on information from the original point of sale? To put this another way, are all those differently licensed or boxed but nonetheless "identical" Mac OS X DVDs actually identical _except that_ each of them has a unique serial number encoded in the data? --- and Apple knows what license was associated with each such serial number at the time of sale? |