From: Andy Hewitt on
Ian McCall <ian(a)eruvia.org> wrote:

> On 2008-12-21 21:26:44 +0000, me9(a)privacy.net (Bella Jones) said:
>
> > This was discussed here recently I think - does TM need its own volume,
> > or can it just exist as a folder/file with other folders/files in one
> > volume?
>
> A normal plug-in one needs its own partition. The network version
> creates a sparse bundle, i.e. can live on its own. To slightly
> complicate things, if you start a network one going and then directly
> plug the drive in, it still uses the sparse bundle i.e. can share a
> partition with other files.

That's not entirely correct. You can still use a TM disk for other
things, there's nothing special about the format or anything. It's just
not recommended, as it'll use up space that could be used by TM, that's
all. And of course, anything you put on there won't get included in the
TM backup.

As a temporary measure (until I could get another drive), I put my
Aperture Vault onto the TM drive, and that worked fine.

In any case, I would still recommend using a dedicated drive for TM.

--
Andy Hewitt
<http://web.me.com/andrewhewitt1/>
From: PGG on
On Dec 21, 9:34 pm, Ian McCall <i...(a)eruvia.org> wrote:

> A normal plug-in one needs its own partition. The network version
> creates a sparse bundle, i.e. can live on its own. To slightly
> complicate things, if you start a network one going and then directly
> plug the drive in, it still uses the sparse bundle i.e. can share a
> partition with other files.

No, it doesn't. I've got Time Machine running here, backing up to a
drive that I also use to store other large files (DVD images, large
downloads, some MP3s).

The main issue is that the drive must be formatted HFS+, as Time
Machine uses hard links to store things.
From: Simon Slavin on
On 21/12/2008, Andy Hewitt wrote in message
<1isbm7v.1y34d2u1kpqfpwN%thewildrover(a)me.com>:

> That's not entirely correct. You can still use a TM disk for other
> things, there's nothing special about the format or anything. It's just
> not recommended, as it'll use up space that could be used by TM, that's
> all. And of course, anything you put on there won't get included in the
> TM backup.

This is correct. Also note that TM will quite happily fill up that
partition if it thinks it needs the room. There's no way to say "Leave
space for my own stuff.".
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From: Andy Hewitt on
Simon Slavin <slavins.delete.these.four.words(a)hearsay.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

> On 21/12/2008, Andy Hewitt wrote in message
> <1isbm7v.1y34d2u1kpqfpwN%thewildrover(a)me.com>:
>
> > That's not entirely correct. You can still use a TM disk for other
> > things, there's nothing special about the format or anything. It's just
> > not recommended, as it'll use up space that could be used by TM, that's
> > all. And of course, anything you put on there won't get included in the
> > TM backup.
>
> This is correct. Also note that TM will quite happily fill up that
> partition if it thinks it needs the room. There's no way to say "Leave
> space for my own stuff.".

Indeed. I was just pointing out that there's nothing to stop you putting
other stuff onto a TM drive (space permitting of course).

--
Andy Hewitt
<http://web.me.com/andrewhewitt1/>
From: Richard Tobin on
In article <mIe4l.38809$cx7.23613(a)newsfe21.ams2>,
Simon Slavin <slavins.delete.these.four.words(a)hearsay.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>This is correct. Also note that TM will quite happily fill up that
>partition if it thinks it needs the room. There's no way to say "Leave
>space for my own stuff.".

Though you could create a (non-sparse) disk image for either the
backups or the rest.

-- Richard
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