Time Servers
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From: Gary J. Dikkema on 4 Mar 2007 12:38 That's what I had thought as well Les... another time server. On this subnet I also have a WHS beta box... but it has its own domain... and then I started installing Centro Beta yesterday... However, the problem has been here longer than that... seems it started around the time I applied the DST patches, but I could be mistaken. And I do recall having this a number of years ago... and I fixed it... too bad that memory/info was over written. <VBG> "Les Connor [SBS MVP]" <les.connor(a)DEL.cfive.ca> wrote in message news:9CD7B342-E5C5-4A72-AE34-C3D32C9A613E(a)microsoft.com... > Yep, could be a typo as I didn't cut/paste the bat file - I keyed the > whole thing just for you :-). > > How about a bios update (or something?), that's really odd to have time go > off like that. Like, there's another time server somewhere that your SBS > is syncing to? > > -- > Les Connor [SBS MVP] > > > "Gary J. Dikkema" <gary_d-no-spam-(a)cdir.ca> wrote in message > news:elB5EubXHHA.4220(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Nope! Not that much dude. >> >> Somewhere between THREE and FOUR minutes. >> >> There's an error in your file, there's NO space between the time server >> and the x08 setting. >> >> I can see the time reset and then it reverts back to the WRONG time. >> >> >> "Les Connor [SBS MVP]" <les.connor(a)DEL.cfive.ca> wrote in message >> news:2959DCE1-7915-45CD-AE21-2CDB0CB58C1B(a)microsoft.com... >>> how much is it off by? You're not on newfie time zone, are you ;-). >>> >>> -- >>> Les Connor [SBS MVP] >>> >>> >>> "Gary J. Dikkema" <gary_d-no-spam-(a)cdir.ca> wrote in message >>> news:%236eci40WHHA.4180(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>> it certainly cleaned up the rrrors in the eventlog; but; the time is >>>> still wrong and it should have been reset. >>>> >>>> >>>> "Les Connor [SBS MVP]" <les.connor(a)DEL.cfive.ca> wrote in message >>>> news:A6A1BD45-6462-4ABD-87ED-A0E940CFA94E(a)microsoft.com... >>>>> Whenever I have trouble with time sync, I run this batch file on the >>>>> SBS. You can substitute your preferred time server with the default, >>>>> but IME it works just fine. >>>>> >>>>> w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:time.windows.com, 0x8 >>>>> /syncfromflags:MANUAL >>>>> w32tm /config /update >>>>> net stop w32time >>>>> net start w32time >>>>> w32tm /resync /nowait >>>>> >>>>> That generally whips it into shape, and you should see some success >>>>> logged in the system event log. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Les Connor [SBS MVP] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Gary J. Dikkema" <gary_d-no-spam-(a)cdir.ca> wrote in message >>>>> news:esVcI$qWHHA.1120(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Good one Les! <VBG> >>>>>> >>>>>> To be honest it originally was syncheed to time.nist.gov like my test >>>>>> R2 box connected thru a different ISP (which doesn't have this >>>>>> challenge BTW). >>>>>> >>>>>> Have gone thru the w32time and the w32tm commands and the registry >>>>>> and yet no joy. >>>>>> >>>>>> I seem to recall this from a year or more back but researching my >>>>>> archives yields only cobwebs... <VBG> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hopefully someone has a solution for me... BTW, this just recently >>>>>> started... perhaps even after the DST patches... perhaps although I >>>>>> could be wrong. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is a SBS2003 R2 Premium Edition ISA2004 SP2 box. >>>>>> >>>>>> TIA. >>>>>> >>>>>> Reagrds! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Les Connor [SBS MVP]" <les.connor(a)DEL.cfive.ca> wrote in message >>>>>> news:3559D4A3-02A8-43AF-B1CC-CBCE83C1D1BE(a)microsoft.com... >>>>>>>A man with two watches never knows the correct time ;-). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't know. What if it just sync'd with 1 time server? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Les Connor [SBS MVP] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Gary J. Dikkema" <gary_d-no-spam-(a)cdir.ca> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:OTo3bNqWHHA.5060(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> My prod SBS2003 R2 box time is AHEAD by 3 - 4 minutes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It it synching to a variety of time servers including pool.nt.org, >>>>>>>> time.nist.gov.... etc. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Forcing the time gets it set correctly for about 3 seconds and then >>>>>>>> it reverts to the incorrect time. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anyone? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Steve Foster [SBS MVP]" <steve.foster(a)picamar.co.uk> wrote in >>>>>>>> message news:xn0f2ui0854mct0017(a)msnews.microsoft.com... >>>>>>>>> Claus wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Hi All, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Does anybody have a couple of good reliable external time servers? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Use the NTP Pool. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.pool.ntp.org/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Steve Foster [SBS MVP] >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the >>>>>>>>> newsgroups. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
From: Les Connor [SBS MVP] on 4 Mar 2007 12:46 It wouldn't be WHS, it's a time client and configured to go to the default windows time site. I also almost remember you having this isse at some time in the past - now that you mention it. I wonder if google groups search would turn up any posts with your name? -- Les Connor [SBS MVP] "Gary J. Dikkema" <gary_d-no-spam-(a)cdir.ca> wrote in message news:uf1MiNoXHHA.4232(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > That's what I had thought as well Les... another time server. > > On this subnet I also have a WHS beta box... but it has its own domain... > and then I started installing Centro Beta yesterday... > > However, the problem has been here longer than that... seems it started > around the time I applied the DST patches, but I could be mistaken. > > And I do recall having this a number of years ago... and I fixed it... too > bad that memory/info was over written. <VBG> > > > > > > "Les Connor [SBS MVP]" <les.connor(a)DEL.cfive.ca> wrote in message > news:9CD7B342-E5C5-4A72-AE34-C3D32C9A613E(a)microsoft.com... >> Yep, could be a typo as I didn't cut/paste the bat file - I keyed the >> whole thing just for you :-). >> >> How about a bios update (or something?), that's really odd to have time >> go off like that. Like, there's another time server somewhere that your >> SBS is syncing to? >> >> -- >> Les Connor [SBS MVP] >> >> >> "Gary J. Dikkema" <gary_d-no-spam-(a)cdir.ca> wrote in message >> news:elB5EubXHHA.4220(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Nope! Not that much dude. >>> >>> Somewhere between THREE and FOUR minutes. >>> >>> There's an error in your file, there's NO space between the time server >>> and the x08 setting. >>> >>> I can see the time reset and then it reverts back to the WRONG time. >>> >>> >>> "Les Connor [SBS MVP]" <les.connor(a)DEL.cfive.ca> wrote in message >>> news:2959DCE1-7915-45CD-AE21-2CDB0CB58C1B(a)microsoft.com... >>>> how much is it off by? You're not on newfie time zone, are you ;-). >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Les Connor [SBS MVP] >>>> >>>> >>>> "Gary J. Dikkema" <gary_d-no-spam-(a)cdir.ca> wrote in message >>>> news:%236eci40WHHA.4180(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>> it certainly cleaned up the rrrors in the eventlog; but; the time is >>>>> still wrong and it should have been reset. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Les Connor [SBS MVP]" <les.connor(a)DEL.cfive.ca> wrote in message >>>>> news:A6A1BD45-6462-4ABD-87ED-A0E940CFA94E(a)microsoft.com... >>>>>> Whenever I have trouble with time sync, I run this batch file on the >>>>>> SBS. You can substitute your preferred time server with the default, >>>>>> but IME it works just fine. >>>>>> >>>>>> w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:time.windows.com, 0x8 >>>>>> /syncfromflags:MANUAL >>>>>> w32tm /config /update >>>>>> net stop w32time >>>>>> net start w32time >>>>>> w32tm /resync /nowait >>>>>> >>>>>> That generally whips it into shape, and you should see some success >>>>>> logged in the system event log. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Les Connor [SBS MVP] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Gary J. Dikkema" <gary_d-no-spam-(a)cdir.ca> wrote in message >>>>>> news:esVcI$qWHHA.1120(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> Good one Les! <VBG> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To be honest it originally was syncheed to time.nist.gov like my >>>>>>> test R2 box connected thru a different ISP (which doesn't have this >>>>>>> challenge BTW). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Have gone thru the w32time and the w32tm commands and the registry >>>>>>> and yet no joy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I seem to recall this from a year or more back but researching my >>>>>>> archives yields only cobwebs... <VBG> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hopefully someone has a solution for me... BTW, this just recently >>>>>>> started... perhaps even after the DST patches... perhaps although I >>>>>>> could be wrong. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is a SBS2003 R2 Premium Edition ISA2004 SP2 box. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> TIA. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Reagrds! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Les Connor [SBS MVP]" <les.connor(a)DEL.cfive.ca> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:3559D4A3-02A8-43AF-B1CC-CBCE83C1D1BE(a)microsoft.com... >>>>>>>>A man with two watches never knows the correct time ;-). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't know. What if it just sync'd with 1 time server? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Les Connor [SBS MVP] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Gary J. Dikkema" <gary_d-no-spam-(a)cdir.ca> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:OTo3bNqWHHA.5060(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> My prod SBS2003 R2 box time is AHEAD by 3 - 4 minutes. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It it synching to a variety of time servers including pool.nt.org, >>>>>>>>> time.nist.gov.... etc. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Forcing the time gets it set correctly for about 3 seconds and >>>>>>>>> then it reverts to the incorrect time. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Anyone? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Steve Foster [SBS MVP]" <steve.foster(a)picamar.co.uk> wrote in >>>>>>>>> message news:xn0f2ui0854mct0017(a)msnews.microsoft.com... >>>>>>>>>> Claus wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Hi All, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Does anybody have a couple of good reliable external time >>>>>>>>>>>servers? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Use the NTP Pool. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.pool.ntp.org/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Steve Foster [SBS MVP] >>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the >>>>>>>>>> newsgroups. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > >
From: kj on 4 Mar 2007 17:41 Gary J. Dikkema wrote: > That's what I had thought as well Les... another time server. > > On this subnet I also have a WHS beta box... but it has its own > domain... and then I started installing Centro Beta yesterday... > > However, the problem has been here longer than that... seems it > started around the time I applied the DST patches, but I could be > mistaken. > And I do recall having this a number of years ago... and I fixed > it... too bad that memory/info was over written. <VBG> > > Just for grins, try this; nltest /dsgetdc:yourdomainname /timeserv ....and look for; Flags: PDC GC DS LDAP KDC TIMESERV WRITABLE DNS_FOREST CLOSE_SITE as the last line. -- /kj
From: Gary J. Dikkema on 5 Mar 2007 11:27 Here's the info... C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>nltest /dsgetdc:cdir.ca.local DC: \\cd2kb.cdir.ca.local Address: \\192.168.5.2 Dom Guid: 48c9fc11-a767-45dc-98e3-f0119ac4b4f8 Dom Name: cdir.ca.local Forest Name: cdir.ca.local Dc Site Name: Default-First-Site-Name Our Site Name: Default-First-Site-Name Flags: PDC GC DS LDAP KDC TIMESERV WRITABLE DNS_DC DNS_DOMAIN DNS_FOREST CLOSE_SITE The command completed successfully As a side note, the router it's behind has the correct time... "kj" <kj(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message news:u3o384qXHHA.4220(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Gary J. Dikkema wrote: >> That's what I had thought as well Les... another time server. >> >> On this subnet I also have a WHS beta box... but it has its own >> domain... and then I started installing Centro Beta yesterday... >> >> However, the problem has been here longer than that... seems it >> started around the time I applied the DST patches, but I could be >> mistaken. >> And I do recall having this a number of years ago... and I fixed >> it... too bad that memory/info was over written. <VBG> >> >> > > Just for grins, try this; > > nltest /dsgetdc:yourdomainname /timeserv > > ...and look for; > > Flags: PDC GC DS LDAP KDC TIMESERV WRITABLE DNS_FOREST CLOSE_SITE > > as the last line. > -- > /kj >
From: Gary J. Dikkema on 5 Mar 2007 13:24
So... after running the various ...diag tools I now need a hotfix for DNS as per eventid 4015 which I ma holding on the phone for. "Gary J. Dikkema" <gary_d-no-spam-(a)cdir.ca> wrote in message news:%23oIafK0XHHA.4560(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Here's the info... > > C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>nltest /dsgetdc:cdir.ca.local > DC: \\cd2kb.cdir.ca.local > Address: \\192.168.5.2 > Dom Guid: 48c9fc11-a767-45dc-98e3-f0119ac4b4f8 > Dom Name: cdir.ca.local > Forest Name: cdir.ca.local > Dc Site Name: Default-First-Site-Name > Our Site Name: Default-First-Site-Name > Flags: PDC GC DS LDAP KDC TIMESERV WRITABLE DNS_DC DNS_DOMAIN > DNS_FOREST > CLOSE_SITE > The command completed successfully > > As a side note, the router it's behind has the correct time... > > > "kj" <kj(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message > news:u3o384qXHHA.4220(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Gary J. Dikkema wrote: >>> That's what I had thought as well Les... another time server. >>> >>> On this subnet I also have a WHS beta box... but it has its own >>> domain... and then I started installing Centro Beta yesterday... >>> >>> However, the problem has been here longer than that... seems it >>> started around the time I applied the DST patches, but I could be >>> mistaken. >>> And I do recall having this a number of years ago... and I fixed >>> it... too bad that memory/info was over written. <VBG> >>> >>> >> >> Just for grins, try this; >> >> nltest /dsgetdc:yourdomainname /timeserv >> >> ...and look for; >> >> Flags: PDC GC DS LDAP KDC TIMESERV WRITABLE DNS_FOREST CLOSE_SITE >> >> as the last line. >> -- >> /kj >> > > |