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From: Jesse F. Hughes on 4 Nov 2009 11:29 Charlie-Boo <shymathguy(a)gmail.com> writes: > People have been calling it that for years. Why would someone spell > out the sub-title and why would us die-hard MUMPS programmers say "The > MUMPS Book ..." when talking about MUMPS? They call it "Charlie's > Book" or "The Advanced MUMPS Text" or �Handbook of Efficiency > Techniques� or �HOET�. You know, it's funny. I searched the web for "Handbook of Efficiency Techniques". Doesn't take long. Just 16 hits. Every hit used the word MUMPS in the title, aside from your posts here and another post you made at http://objectmix.com. > See my earlier references to quotes from fans who surround me at > computer conferences. Somehow, your reports of how well-loved you are don't seem all that persuasive to me. Here's the only Usenet review of the book I've found. Beyond there being a _reason_ for it being the "last known copy", note that _tHoMET_ is from the early-early 1980s (late 1970s?) and was out of date/inaccurate within months of it being published. Such efficiency techniques of 'use one letter variable names because they are special-cased for faster lookups' may have been true for some early versions of MUMPS, but by 1982 I know _explicitly_ that neither of the then-modern versions of MUMPS that "technique" was directed act did that any more. However, having a PDF version might be fun for a laugh now and then. (From a 2003 thread found at http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.mumps/browse_frm/thread/1abdbadd49e43de8/fe9469092540af20?q="handbook+of+efficiency+techniques"#fe9469092540af20) To be fair, other posters in the thread do not have a negative opinion of the text. They have no opinion at all, because they have either never seen it or forgotten it entirely. On the other hand, there is a single, anonymous Amazon.com review. That review is positively glowing. Anonymous netizens seem to love you. Also, the MUMPS FAQ is also approving of the book, and says, "If you need to finetune an existing application or create a new one, this book's for you!" Let's call the online reaction mixed. > How many books have you written or autographs have you given? Are > you just jealous? I spent 2 years writing that book and the nice > programmers at hospitals are almost unanimous in their praise, while > the psychotic professors and their students are not about to give > anyone outside of their species anything. I've written no books and I don't claim to be a better or more influential author than you. -- Jesse F. Hughes "There's absolutely no information here." -- Hank Hill, on blogging and information theory.
From: Charlie-Boo on 4 Nov 2009 12:29 On Nov 4, 10:23 am, Aatu Koskensilta <aatu.koskensi...(a)uta.fi> wrote: > Charlie-Boo <shymath...(a)gmail.com> writes: > > I laughed when he blatantly judged a book by its title. Now you best > > him: You attack (judge) someone (with impeccable credentials in an > > area) based on the programming language they use. > > You're hallucinating. I didn't attack anyone, "MUMPS is obsolescent, MUMPS programs looking like something Musatov would post in his spare moments. I expect Charlie has rewrote his book using F#. About the marvel that is MUMPS" You attacked MUMPS, right? Why - because I used it in the title of the book? Well, the techniques apply to any database system. But why argue over something of no consequence? Why attack the book you have never read (fighting over the title)? Is it because of the author? Psychopaths (aka sociopaths) also lie without hesitation. http://www.answers.com/topic/personality-disorder See: Cluster a Disorders Notice how the points that I have proven from quotes of you and others are listed - people who say they know what other people are thinking etc. "Warn People Report (to) police authorities if you come across evidence of violence inflicted by the sociopath. The faster they are put behind bars, the better it is. Remember they feed on your fears and emotions and use them to manipulate you. Be fearless, and deal with them coldly. For those of you, who have been unfortunate enough to have crossed paths with a sociopath, I would like to say that, do not lose your trust in humanity. There is a lot of goodness and beauty in this world which is waiting to be beholden by you. Don't let sociopaths and other anti social elements bring you down to their level. Deal with them with a cool mind and do not ever hesitate in doing the right thing, no matter how hard it is!" http://www.buzzle.com/articles/how-to-deal-with-a-sociopath.html C-B > I offered a comment about > MUMPS. > > -- > Aatu Koskensilta (aatu.koskensi...(a)uta.fi) > > "Wovon mann nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen" > - Ludwig Wittgenstein, Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus
From: Jesse F. Hughes on 4 Nov 2009 13:17 Charlie-Boo <shymathguy(a)gmail.com> writes: > On Nov 4, 11:29 am, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote: >> Charlie-Boo <shymath...(a)gmail.com> writes: >> > People have been calling it that for years. Why would someone spell >> > out the sub-title and why would us die-hard MUMPS programmers say "The >> > MUMPS Book ..." when talking about MUMPS? They call it "Charlie's >> > Book" or "The Advanced MUMPS Text" or ``Handbook of Efficiency >> > Techniques" or ``HOET". >> >> You know, it's funny. I searched the web for "Handbook of Efficiency >> Techniques". Doesn't take long. Just 16 hits. Every hit used the >> word MUMPS in the title, aside from your posts here and another post >> you made athttp://objectmix.com. > > The others are book dealers who are using its full name, of course, > which proves my point: when used in discussions people use the > abbreviated name - just as they refer to Wolfram's book as ANKS. Just to be clear: a google search on "HOET" mumps programming -virus -disease -rubella brings up five hits. The only relevant hit is your post in this thread. Substituting "computer" for "programming" does no better. Nor does "efficiency" or "techniques". It seems your fan base doesn't use the internet. -- Jesse F. Hughes "The future is a fascinating thing, and so is history. And you people are a fascinating part of history, for those in the future." -- James S. Harris is fascinating, too
From: Charlie-Boo on 4 Nov 2009 13:42 On Nov 4, 1:17 pm, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote: > Charlie-Boo <shymath...(a)gmail.com> writes: > > On Nov 4, 11:29 am, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote: > >> Charlie-Boo <shymath...(a)gmail.com> writes: > >> > People have been calling it that for years. Why would someone spell > >> > out the sub-title and why would us die-hard MUMPS programmers say "The > >> > MUMPS Book ..." when talking about MUMPS? They call it "Charlie's > >> > Book" or "The Advanced MUMPS Text" or ``Handbook of Efficiency > >> > Techniques" or ``HOET". > > >> You know, it's funny. I searched the web for "Handbook of Efficiency > >> Techniques". Doesn't take long. Just 16 hits. Every hit used the > >> word MUMPS in the title, aside from your posts here and another post > >> you made athttp://objectmix.com. > > > The others are book dealers who are using its full name, of course, > > which proves my point: when used in discussions people use the > > abbreviated name - just as they refer to Wolfram's book as ANKS. > > Just to be clear: a google search on > > "HOET" mumps programming -virus -disease -rubella > > brings up five hits. The only relevant hit is your post in this > thread. > > Substituting "computer" for "programming" does no better. Nor does > "efficiency" or "techniques". > > It seems your fan base doesn't use the internet. Search MUMPS HANDBOOK and there's millions. Post it on any MUMPS discussion board - or on all of at least 3 or 4. Ask if anyone has heard of or read my book and what their opinion of it is. Sorry - you're a waste of space. C-B > -- > Jesse F. Hughes > "The future is a fascinating thing, and so is history. And you people > are a fascinating part of history, for those in the future." > -- James S. Harris is fascinating, too- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: Jesse F. Hughes on 4 Nov 2009 14:37
Charlie-Boo <shymathguy(a)gmail.com> writes: > On Nov 4, 1:17 pm, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote: >> Charlie-Boo <shymath...(a)gmail.com> writes: >> > On Nov 4, 11:29 am, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote: >> >> Charlie-Boo <shymath...(a)gmail.com> writes: >> >> > People have been calling it that for years. Why would someone spell >> >> > out the sub-title and why would us die-hard MUMPS programmers say "The >> >> > MUMPS Book ..." when talking about MUMPS? They call it "Charlie's >> >> > Book" or "The Advanced MUMPS Text" or ``Handbook of Efficiency >> >> > Techniques" or ``HOET". >> >> >> You know, it's funny. I searched the web for "Handbook of Efficiency >> >> Techniques". Doesn't take long. Just 16 hits. Every hit used the >> >> word MUMPS in the title, aside from your posts here and another post >> >> you made athttp://objectmix.com. >> >> > The others are book dealers who are using its full name, of course, >> > which proves my point: when used in discussions people use the >> > abbreviated name - just as they refer to Wolfram's book as ANKS. >> >> Just to be clear: a google search on >> >> "HOET" mumps programming -virus -disease -rubella >> >> brings up five hits. The only relevant hit is your post in this >> thread. >> >> Substituting "computer" for "programming" does no better. Nor does >> "efficiency" or "techniques". >> >> It seems your fan base doesn't use the internet. > > Search MUMPS HANDBOOK and there's millions. Er, right. But that's exactly what I said was odd about your reference: you left out the word "MUMPS". (And, in any case, not all of the hits are reference to your book.) Anyway, this discussion has gotten a bit silly. I never said that your book isn't influential among the MUMPS community. I honestly have no idea of its influence. I only said that you inflated the apparent scope of the book by referring to it as "the Handbook of Efficiency Techniques" -- and also that it's pretty silly to call it your first book when it is your only published book. > > Post it on any MUMPS discussion board - or on all of at least 3 or 4. > Ask if anyone has heard of or read my book and what their opinion of > it is. Well, the 2003 thread I mentioned provides some small anecdotal evidence, no? One bad review and the remainder of posters had no familiarity with the text. (There is one positive anonymous review on Amazon and one complimentary mention in the MUMPS FAQ, so I'm not suggesting that the general reception is negative.) > Sorry - you're a waste of space. Surely. -- Jesse F. Hughes "Casting [Demi] Moore as a woman who has come to the New World so that she can 'worship without fear or persecution' in _The_Scarlet_Letter_ is like casting Bruce Willis as Young Rene Descartes." -Joe Queenan |