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From: Manfred Zhuang [MSFT] on 24 Dec 2007 02:38
Hello Customer,

Thank you for posting here and also thanks to Charlie and Merv.

From your post, I understand that you would like to know if we need to
remove SP2 before installing the transition pack.

Yes, we need to remove SP2 first.

We only have transition packs for SBS 2003 SP1 and SBS 2003 R2. We don't
support to install transition pack for SBS 2003 SP2.

If Windows Server 2003 SP2 is already installed, we need to remove it until
after the upgrade is complete or the migration is complete.

Otherwise it may cause many problems.

More information for your reference:

In some scenarios, you must remove Windows Server 2003 SP2 before you
upgrade to the full retail version of Windows Small Business Server 2003 or
before you migrate to Windows Server 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932600

What to do before installing the Transition Pack
http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/2006/01/12/417350.aspx

Installation of the Windows SBS 2003 Transition Pack may silently fail on a
Windows SBS 2003-based computer
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/914990

Activation Loop After Completing the SBS Transition Pack:
http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/2007/01/29/activation-loop-after-comple
ting-the-sbs-transition-pack.aspx

If you have any concern, please feel free to let me know.

Best regards,

Manfred Zhuang(MSFT)
Microsoft Online Newsgroup Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

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| I am about to apply the transition pack to my SBS R2 Standard server. My
| server has service pack 2 applied but the transition media has service
pack 1
| integrated. Would it be best for me to slipstream service pack 2 to the
| transition pack first?
|

From: rondmc on 26 Dec 2007 10:49
Thanks for the advice. I'm glad I posted this before slipstreaming SP2 to
the transition media and installing it!


"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

> This link seems to support what you're saying Charlie. (match the service
> packs between the TP CD and the SBS server before you start the process).
>
> What to do before installing the Transition Pack
> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/2006/01/12/417350.aspx
> -------------------------------------------------
> 7-Make sure you are using the Windows Small Business Server 2003 with SP1
> Transition Pack if you have installed Windows 2003 Service Pack 1 on your
> SBS 2003 server. You want to make sure that the service pack matches before
> starting up the process.
>
> Basically, try to avoid mixing the versions. If you have Transition Pack
> media that does NOT include Service Pack 1, then make sure you are upgrading
> an SBS server that does NOT have Windows 2003 Service Pack 1 installed.
> -------------------------------------------------
>
> --
> Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
> ============================
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie(a)mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> news:26A95623-3A37-460B-9C0D-A8CE6CB1C425(a)microsoft.com...
> > Well, yes, actually, I'm afraid it might. It's not a scenario I ever tried
> > and I'm extremely reluctant to suggest you go ahead with it. If it doesn't
> > work, you're very likely to be in an indeterminant state that's very hard
> > to
> > get out of. Thus my suggestion to do it the annoying way and role back
> > SP2.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Charlie.
> > http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
> >
> >
> > "rondmc" <rondmc(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:489D2B6B-A762-43DF-9EB9-B61079C19748(a)microsoft.com...
> >>
> >>
> >> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm not sure how well slipstreaming would work, though you could try it.
> >>> I'd
> >>> be more inclined to roll back SP2, do the transition, then re-apply the
> >>> Server 2k3 SP2 after the transition is complete.
> >>
> >> Do you think slipstreaming might break the transition pack?
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Also, FWIW, my standard suggestions on the transition pack installation:
> >>>
> >>> Before you run the Transition Pack there are a few steps you should take
> >>> to
> >>> ensure a smooth transition:
> >>>
> >>> 1.) Do a thorough, complete, VERIFIED backup. If it isn't verified and
> >>> tested, it isn't a backup, IMHO.
> >>
> >> I agree!
> >>
> >>> 2.) Clean up your HD. Remove temporary files, old logs, and so forth.
> >>> Run
> >>> Disk Cleanup (cleanmgr.exe)
> >>
> >> Done.
> >>
> >>> 3.) Defragment the HD. Use the built in, or use a good third party such
> >>> as
> >>> PerfectDisk from Raxco.
> >>
> >> The built didn't do very well. Thanks for the Raxo tip! I'll give it a
> >> try.
> >>
> >>> 4.) Disconnect the server from the internet completely. (Easiest way is
> >>> just
> >>> unplug the network from the back of the server.)
> >>
> >> OK
> >>
> >>> 5.) Stop any third party services that are running as a system account
> >>> and
> >>> set them to disabled or uninstall them. This includes AV, disk
> >>> utilities,
> >>> and any real-time monitoring programs.
> >>
> >> OK.
> >>
> >>> 6.) Remove Veritas BackupExec (see KB: 914990)
> >>
> >> I use Acronis.
> >>
> >>
> >>> 7.) Run regedit and check for the presence of the key:
> >>> HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Small Business. If it exists, remove it.
> >>
> >>
> >> Its a gonner.
> >>
> >>
> >>> That's it. Just make sure you have the matching TP version to your SBS
> >>> version. (ie, SP1 for SP1 SBS, etc.)
> >>
> >>
> >> Yep, except for SP 2 applied to the server.
> >>
> >>> Also, make sure you have media kits available for your individual server
> >>> software packages. You shouldn't need them, but it's good to have, just
> >>> in
> >>> case.
> >>
> >> Got them.
> >>
> >>
> >>> Finally, just run the transition. Expect it to take 2+ hours, and 7 or
> >>> more
> >>> reboots. Even if you give it the logon password, you may get prompted
> >>> the
> >>> first reboot - I did in 4 of 7 transitions I did last spring. No
> >>> discernable
> >>> pattern to it. Once that first one completes, though, you can go grab
> >>> some
> >>> lunch/dinner/whatever and it should run by itself.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks for the tips. If I try slipstreaming I will let you know how it
> >> works out.
> >>
> >
>
>
>
From: rondmc on 26 Dec 2007 10:55
Thanks for all the links and the advice. I will roll back SP 2 before
installing the transition pack.


"Manfred Zhuang [MSFT]" wrote:

> Hello Customer,
>
> Thank you for posting here and also thanks to Charlie and Merv.
>
> From your post, I understand that you would like to know if we need to
> remove SP2 before installing the transition pack.
>
> Yes, we need to remove SP2 first.
>
> We only have transition packs for SBS 2003 SP1 and SBS 2003 R2. We don't
> support to install transition pack for SBS 2003 SP2.
>
> If Windows Server 2003 SP2 is already installed, we need to remove it until
> after the upgrade is complete or the migration is complete.
>
> Otherwise it may cause many problems.
>
> More information for your reference:
>
> In some scenarios, you must remove Windows Server 2003 SP2 before you
> upgrade to the full retail version of Windows Small Business Server 2003 or
> before you migrate to Windows Server 2003
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932600
>
> What to do before installing the Transition Pack
> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/2006/01/12/417350.aspx
>
> Installation of the Windows SBS 2003 Transition Pack may silently fail on a
> Windows SBS 2003-based computer
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/914990
>
> Activation Loop After Completing the SBS Transition Pack:
> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/2007/01/29/activation-loop-after-comple
> ting-the-sbs-transition-pack.aspx
>
> If you have any concern, please feel free to let me know.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Manfred Zhuang(MSFT)
> Microsoft Online Newsgroup Support
>
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>
> =====================================================
> This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
> regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the corresponding
> newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely manner.
> You can locate the newsgroup here:
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>
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>
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> so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
>
> For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly. Please
> check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>
> Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
> =====================================================
>
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> | I am about to apply the transition pack to my SBS R2 Standard server. My
> | server has service pack 2 applied but the transition media has service
> pack 1
> | integrated. Would it be best for me to slipstream service pack 2 to the
> | transition pack first?
> |
>
>
From: Manfred Zhuang [MSFT] on 26 Dec 2007 22:29
Hello Customer,

Thank you for your reply.

If you have further problem, feel free to let us know.

Best regards,

Manfred Zhuang(MSFT)
Microsoft Online Newsgroup Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

=====================================================
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regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the corresponding
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Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
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| Thanks for all the links and the advice. I will roll back SP 2 before
| installing the transition pack.
|
|
| "Manfred Zhuang [MSFT]" wrote:
|
| > Hello Customer,
| >
| > Thank you for posting here and also thanks to Charlie and Merv.
| >
| > From your post, I understand that you would like to know if we need to
| > remove SP2 before installing the transition pack.
| >
| > Yes, we need to remove SP2 first.
| >
| > We only have transition packs for SBS 2003 SP1 and SBS 2003 R2. We
don't
| > support to install transition pack for SBS 2003 SP2.
| >
| > If Windows Server 2003 SP2 is already installed, we need to remove it
until
| > after the upgrade is complete or the migration is complete.
| >
| > Otherwise it may cause many problems.
| >
| > More information for your reference:
| >
| > In some scenarios, you must remove Windows Server 2003 SP2 before you
| > upgrade to the full retail version of Windows Small Business Server
2003 or
| > before you migrate to Windows Server 2003
| > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932600
| >
| > What to do before installing the Transition Pack
| > http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/2006/01/12/417350.aspx
| >
| > Installation of the Windows SBS 2003 Transition Pack may silently fail
on a
| > Windows SBS 2003-based computer
| > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/914990
| >
| > Activation Loop After Completing the SBS Transition Pack:
| >
http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/2007/01/29/activation-loop-after-comple
| > ting-the-sbs-transition-pack.aspx
| >
| > If you have any concern, please feel free to let me know.
| >
| > Best regards,
| >
| > Manfred Zhuang(MSFT)
| > Microsoft Online Newsgroup Support
| >
| > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| >
| > =====================================================
| > This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
| > regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
corresponding
| > newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely
manner.
| > You can locate the newsgroup here:
| > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx
| >
| > When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you check
the
| > "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there
are
| > any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your
newsreader,
| > please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from your
| > issue.
| >
| > Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although we
| > provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
| > different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In
doing
| > so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
| >
| > For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly.
Please
| > check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
| >
| > Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
| > =====================================================
| >
| > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
| > --------------------
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| > | X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 207.46.193.207
| > | From: =?Utf-8?B?cm9uZG1j?= <rondmc(a)discussions.microsoft.com>
| > | Subject: Transition Pack
| > | Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 07:45:00 -0800
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| > |
| > | I am about to apply the transition pack to my SBS R2 Standard server.
My
| > | server has service pack 2 applied but the transition media has
service
| > pack 1
| > | integrated. Would it be best for me to slipstream service pack 2 to
the
| > | transition pack first?
| > |
| >
| >
|

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