From: Sylvia Else on 27 Nov 2009 19:36 David wrote: > Sylvia Else wrote: >> >> Anyway, all a test would do is show that the answer is probably >> correct. It wouldn't make it any more obvious. >> >> Sylvia. > > Sylvia, > > Draw yourself a vector diagram. Then with some simple trigonometry it > *should* be more obvious. <sigh> The test wouldn't make it more obvious. I said I hadn't done the math. The math would give the result, not make it obvious. Sylvia.
From: Jamie on 27 Nov 2009 22:44 PeterD wrote: > On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:38:47 -0700, D Yuniskis > <not.going.to.be(a)seen.com> wrote: > > > >>This is how GFCI breakers work -- they watch for current "leaking" >>off to ground someplace other than in the "return" conductor. > > > No they don't. They look for imbalanced current flow between the two > conductors. And how do you think imbalance is going to take place? Think, Think, before hitting the send button.
From: PeterD on 28 Nov 2009 08:17 On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:40:49 -0700, D Yuniskis <not.going.to.be(a)seen.com> wrote: >PeterD wrote: >> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:38:47 -0700, D Yuniskis >> <not.going.to.be(a)seen.com> wrote: >> >> >>> This is how GFCI breakers work -- they watch for current "leaking" >>> off to ground someplace other than in the "return" conductor. >> >> No they don't. They look for imbalanced current flow between the two >> conductors. > >Gee, isn't that what I *said*? No, you didn't. >How do you get an imbalance if >current isn't *leaking* off to ground someplace other than >in the "return" conductor? Re-read your post.
From: Michael A. Terrell on 28 Nov 2009 11:16 PeterD wrote: > > On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:38:47 -0700, D Yuniskis > <not.going.to.be(a)seen.com> wrote: > > >This is how GFCI breakers work -- they watch for current "leaking" > >off to ground someplace other than in the "return" conductor. > > No they don't. They look for imbalanced current flow between the two > conductors. How are you going to get the imbalance without some current finding another path to the neutral conductor, which is bonded to the grounding system at the main panel? You two are describing the same thing, from different directions. -- The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!
From: Jamie on 28 Nov 2009 12:04
Michael A. Terrell wrote: > PeterD wrote: > >>On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:38:47 -0700, D Yuniskis >><not.going.to.be(a)seen.com> wrote: >> >> >>>This is how GFCI breakers work -- they watch for current "leaking" >>>off to ground someplace other than in the "return" conductor. >> >>No they don't. They look for imbalanced current flow between the two >>conductors. > > > > How are you going to get the imbalance without some current finding > another path to the neutral conductor, which is bonded to the grounding > system at the main panel? You two are describing the same thing, from > different directions. > > I know that you can be bond headed at times, but really, this is simple 101 Electronics.. D Yuniskis has it all over you. It's obvious that he knows more about the subject than you. Btw. CLUE: The neutral also passes through the fault device. Think before depressing the SEND Button! |