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From: Sam Wormley on 4 Jun 2010 11:02 On 6/3/10 1:34 PM, rick_s wrote: > A photon is not a little piece of dust. It is a wave packet. It has some > length to it. It is a wave. A short wave. So? Cut it in half and you have > two waves. Make a small enough effect and it will interfere with itself. > > People are sure stuck on this notion that matter is like little pieces of > rock. It has never ever been shown to exist in that way. These are misunderstandings on your part, rick_s. Background on the Photon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#Physical_properties
From: Benj on 4 Jun 2010 15:29 On Jun 3, 2:34 pm, rick_s <m...(a)my.com> wrote: > >Yes, experiments have shown that a single photon will interfere with > >itself. Single slit diffraction. duh. > A photon is not a little piece of dust. It is a wave packet. It has some > length to it. It is a wave. A short wave. So? Cut it in half and you have > two waves. Make a small enough effect and it will interfere with itself. Yes, only it doesn't happen, or at least nobody has seen it happen. The problem is that nobody knows exactly WHAT a "photon" is. A "wave packet" is a neat theory only it doesn't work. Because the energy of a photon is known. It is known that this determines a wavelength. And the physical extent of a photon is known. It is also known they don't split in two. And it is known that they transfer energy much too fast to have wavelengths compatible with the two slit patterns. Hence even if a photon is a "wave packet" it still only goes through one slit at a time. It still does not have enough physical extent to "sense" the second slit. It's wavelength must be so short (due to energy transfer and size measurements) that it cannot be the source of either single or double slit diffraction patterns! If it interferes with itself it must do so well outside the parameters of light diffraction patterns! > People are sure stuck on this notion that matter is like little pieces of > rock. It has never ever been shown to exist in that way. > In fact experiments ever done, have shown that E=mc2 where E is kinetic > energy, another term for momentum type of energy. Physical force. > Not electricity. rolling eyes. Well we know photons are little pieces of SOMETHING. They travel through empty vacuum so that with no medium waves cannot transmit energy. Hence either the MEDIUM isn't being recognized or the photons are matter that can travel without a medium! As Maxwell noted, there aren't any other choices! All else is hand-waving.
From: bert on 4 Jun 2010 19:14 On Jun 4, 11:02 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 6/3/10 1:34 PM, rick_s wrote: > > > A photon is not a little piece of dust. It is a wave packet. It has some > > length to it. It is a wave. A short wave. So? Cut it in half and you have > > two waves. Make a small enough effect and it will interfere with itself.. > > > People are sure stuck on this notion that matter is like little pieces of > > rock. It has never ever been shown to exist in that way. > > These are misunderstandings on your part, rick_s. > > Background on the Photon > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#Physical_properties Sam Two slit experiment proves my twin photon theory. My idea on this is knowing that the interference phenomena is the telltale sign of waves. Two photons takes away the mistory. One photon interfering with itself is crazy thinking even in the quantum realm TreBert
From: BURT on 4 Jun 2010 21:42 On Jun 4, 4:14 pm, bert <herbertglazie...(a)msn.com> wrote: > On Jun 4, 11:02 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 6/3/10 1:34 PM, rick_s wrote: > > > > A photon is not a little piece of dust. It is a wave packet. It has some > > > length to it. It is a wave. A short wave. So? Cut it in half and you have > > > two waves. Make a small enough effect and it will interfere with itself. > > > > People are sure stuck on this notion that matter is like little pieces of > > > rock. It has never ever been shown to exist in that way. > > > These are misunderstandings on your part, rick_s. > > > Background on the Photon > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#Physical_properties > > Sam Two slit experiment proves my twin photon theory. My idea on this > is knowing that the interference phenomena is the telltale sign of > waves. Two photons takes away the mistory. One photon interfering > with itself is crazy thinking even in the quantum realm TreBert I don't think there has been a measurement matter decaying into light. When and where should we look? That is the point. Mitch Raemsch
From: Sam Wormley on 5 Jun 2010 10:16
On 6/5/10 8:59 AM, Huang wrote: > > Western science has a very heavy bias in favor of seeking models which > are deterministic... One of the biggest pillars of modern physics is anything but deterministic! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mechanics |