From: MagerValp on 24 Oct 2006 11:17 >>>>> "WM" == Wolfgang Moser <wnhp(a)d81.de.invalid> writes: WM> How about reliability? From eight years of testing The Star WM> Commander I really know that it is mature regarding error handling WM> and "emulation" of simple DOS errors. If cabling and timing is Ok, WM> there hardly are some disks that let SC struggle. WarpCopy first does a fast read that dumps the whole disk in 22 seconds. If any problem sectors are found, it goes back and reads the sectors using plain job codes. As long as the disks don't use any protection it should be fine. If the disk won't transfer cleanly, it'll tell you so (red or yellow sectors on the display). For nasty protected stuff and corrupt disks you still need a parallel copier. -- ___ . . . . . + . . o _|___|_ + . + . + . Per Olofsson, arkadspelare o-o . . . o + MagerValp(a)cling.gu.se - + + . http://www.cling.gu.se/~cl3polof/
From: Wolfgang Moser on 24 Oct 2006 11:43 Hello Per, Leif, [WarpCopy64] > WM> How about reliability? From eight years of testing The Star > > WarpCopy first does a fast read that dumps the whole disk in 22 > seconds. If any problem sectors are found, it goes back and reads the > sectors using plain job codes. As long as the disks don't use any ah well, I see, you convinced me that WarpCopy64 at least implements an error handling strategy and therefore _expects_ malfunctioning disks and knows to apply alternative strategies. > protection it should be fine. If the disk won't transfer cleanly, > it'll tell you so (red or yellow sectors on the display). That's what I wanted to know, so it cannot happen under normal circumstances that corrupted images were generated without the user recognizing it. > For nasty protected stuff and corrupt disks you still need a parallel > copier. Or your new draft design I would call bit-slice copier. Btw. the lucky owners of a 1541-II or 1541C (with internal 1541B mainboard) disk drive, can easily expand their drives with 16KB of RAM. Only a 32pol precision socket, a 32KB cache RAM from a 486 and the original ROM chip are needed as well as some cables. As easy as constructing a kernal ROM adaptor with plugging two sockets on top of each other and fiddling two cables around... Then again, who writes all the software for this. Womo
From: MagerValp on 24 Oct 2006 18:19 >>>>> "WM" == Wolfgang Moser <wnhp(a)d81.de.invalid> writes: WM> That's what I wanted to know, so it cannot happen under normal WM> circumstances that corrupted images were generated without the WM> user recognizing it. Yup. I'm not sure if it saves the error info in the d64 or not though. WM> Or your new draft design I would call bit-slice copier. Yeah... if I ever get the time to try it out. -- ___ . . . . . + . . o _|___|_ + . + . + . Per Olofsson, arkadspelare o-o . . . o + MagerValp(a)cling.gu.se - + + . http://www.cling.gu.se/~cl3polof/
From: Pete Rittwage on 24 Oct 2006 19:22 Leif Bloomquist wrote: > "Wolfgang Moser" <wnhp(a)d81.de.invalid> wrote in message > news:ehkkkn$inv$1(a)online.de... > >> * Booting pure DOS or Win98 >> * Raising The Star Commander > > No way. For 4000 disks you definitely need WarpCopy64. WarpCopy64 can make > a D64 of a disk in about 22 seconds, and it includes auto-naming of the > D64s. Much, much, faster than Star Commander or opencbm. More expensive > because you need an RR-Net, but time is money... > > http://www.oxyron.de/html/wc64.html > > I can beat that with a raw GCR copy of the disk side (41 tracks). It then takes less than a second to convert to D64. With MNIB, 7 seconds is "wasted" sending the code to the drive and getting it ready to image a disk. The actual imaging takes only 9 seconds for an entire disk side. I could make a mode where you inserted disks one after the other and hit enter and get them in 9 seconds each. -- - Pete Rittwage http://rittwage.com C64 Preservation Project http://c64preservation.com
From: Pete Rittwage on 24 Oct 2006 21:01
Pete Rittwage wrote: > Leif Bloomquist wrote: >> "Wolfgang Moser" <wnhp(a)d81.de.invalid> wrote in message >> news:ehkkkn$inv$1(a)online.de... >> >>> * Booting pure DOS or Win98 >>> * Raising The Star Commander >> >> No way. For 4000 disks you definitely need WarpCopy64. WarpCopy64 >> can make a D64 of a disk in about 22 seconds, and it includes >> auto-naming of the D64s. Much, much, faster than Star Commander or >> opencbm. More expensive because you need an RR-Net, but time is money... >> >> http://www.oxyron.de/html/wc64.html >> > > I can beat that with a raw GCR copy of the disk side (41 tracks). It > then takes less than a second to convert to D64. > > With MNIB, 7 seconds is "wasted" sending the code to the drive and > getting it ready to image a disk. The actual imaging takes only 9 > seconds for an entire disk side. I could make a mode where you inserted > disks one after the other and hit enter and get them in 9 seconds each. > This is added to the released MNIB code now. Image disk sides in less than 10 seconds each with automatic naming and full copy protection support. Works in plain DOS, or with cbm4win/cbm4linux and a VIA parallel cable. -- - Pete Rittwage http://rittwage.com C64 Preservation Project http://c64preservation.com |