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From: Anti Vigilante on 20 Oct 2009 17:05
> Now Java was introduced as a dumbed down C++ for those who can't handle the
> read thing.

The READ thing... was that intentional?

From: Adam Michalik on 20 Oct 2009 17:26
Kaz Kylheku <kkylheku(a)gmail.com> writes:

> (whole post)
I know that Java was not the first language to introduce method calls
with dot. I think, however, that if someone is old enough to know
Simula, he should also know, what OOP is really about.

> Now Java was introduced as a dumbed down C++ for those who can't handle the
> read thing.

Dumbed down? I'd rather say that Java saved the world from C++ - many things
are be better than Java, but even more things are better than C++, and
one of them is Java.

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From: Dave Searles on 21 Oct 2009 01:40
vippstar wrote:
> On Oct 20, 10:47 am, Petter Gustad <newsmailco...(a)gustad.com> wrote:
>> Quite some time ago somebody posted an URL to an image showing some
>> Lisp code which were annotated "What you see", with blurred code and
>> highlighted parenthesis. And then "What I see" (or something like
>> that) with blurred parenthesis and highlighted code.
>>
>> Anybody have this URL?
>
> Searching the web is too hard in 2009.
> http://www.google.com/search?q=%22what+the+non-lisper+sees%22

This is the only link posted in this thread and it does not lead to the
image in question. It leads to a lot of text discussing the image, at
reddit and a couple of other sites, but not, strangely, to the image.
Using the same query in Google Image Search also is useless.

Direct link, please.
From: Anti Vigilante on 21 Oct 2009 01:57
On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 01:40 -0400, Dave Searles wrote:
> vippstar wrote:
> > On Oct 20, 10:47 am, Petter Gustad <newsmailco...(a)gustad.com> wrote:
> >> Quite some time ago somebody posted an URL to an image showing some
> >> Lisp code which were annotated "What you see", with blurred code and
> >> highlighted parenthesis. And then "What I see" (or something like
> >> that) with blurred parenthesis and highlighted code.
> >>
> >> Anybody have this URL?
> >
> > Searching the web is too hard in 2009.
> > http://www.google.com/search?q=%22what+the+non-lisper+sees%22
>
> This is the only link posted in this thread and it does not lead to the
> image in question. It leads to a lot of text discussing the image, at
> reddit and a couple of other sites, but not, strangely, to the image.
> Using the same query in Google Image Search also is useless.
>
> Direct link, please.

The link takes no more than two or three clicks to find.

From: Barry Margolin on 21 Oct 2009 02:14
In article <87iqeabj6t.fsf(a)pangea.home.gustad.com>,
Petter Gustad <newsmailcomp6(a)gustad.com> wrote:

> Quite some time ago somebody posted an URL to an image showing some
> Lisp code which were annotated "What you see", with blurred code and
> highlighted parenthesis. And then "What I see" (or something like
> that) with blurred parenthesis and highlighted code.
>
> Anybody have this URL?
>
> Petter

I remember the first time I saw a Lisp program. It was about 1988, when
I'd only been programming for about a year, mostly in BASIC. It wasn't
the parentheses that I noticed so much, but it seemed to just keep
saying "LAMBDA NIL" over and over. I think it was an implementation of
Eliza running on DTSS.

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