From: Pavel A. on
Then, what is "raw mode"? Isn't accessing sectors or \\.\PhysicalDrive raw mode?
--PA

"Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim(a)storagecraft.com> wrote in message news:eN$HAsZrFHA.1168(a)TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> 2. Which tool do I use to read on a sector level basis or from a
>> physical device
>
> Admin-wise: DSKPROBE
> Developer-wise: CreateFile on \\.\PhysicalDrive%d (i.e. 0, 1 and so on).
>
> --
> Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
> StorageCraft Corporation
> maxim(a)storagecraft.com
> http://www.storagecraft.com
>
>


From: David J. Craig on
No. No. No.

File Systems mount in the following order: Funny ones, Microsoft ones, RAW
File System. File Systems only mount to volumes.

It is a physical drive mounted as a physical drive. No RAW anything. Just
a physical drive that consists of sector zero to N - 1.

Try WinHex. Very good. Simple and easy to use. Some useful templates to
interpret certain sectors. You can write your own templates for other
sectors as you need.

"Pavel A." <pavel_a(a)NOwritemeNO.com> wrote in message
news:%237n8ufbrFHA.460(a)TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Then, what is "raw mode"? Isn't accessing sectors or \\.\PhysicalDrive
> raw mode?
> --PA
>
> "Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim(a)storagecraft.com> wrote in message
> news:eN$HAsZrFHA.1168(a)TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>> 2. Which tool do I use to read on a sector level basis or from a
>>> physical device
>>
>> Admin-wise: DSKPROBE
>> Developer-wise: CreateFile on \\.\PhysicalDrive%d (i.e. 0, 1 and so on).
>>
>> --
>> Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
>> StorageCraft Corporation
>> maxim(a)storagecraft.com
>> http://www.storagecraft.com
>>
>>
>
>


From: Frank L. on

Looks interesting, yet it does not work.

The device does not get mounted. Therefore no letter
is assigned to it.

DSKPROBE works in two ways:
1. Opening by drive letter
No letter, no opening possible

2. Opening by physical device
I do not see the physical device, therefore I can't open it

The device is not dead, otherwise handshaking would not occur and
actually end up with SUCCESFUL.

It is the READ of the data, which fails. Not to forget how the issue
came up:
I tried to copy 136 M onto the device and got a "Write delay failed"
message. Then I unplugged the device which caused the message
"You have unplugged without stopping the device" or such.

What happened here ?
Some sectors were written onto the device but the file system was not
updated eventually. To me there is a mismatch between the file system
and the actual data on the device. Is there a flag like the "dirty flag" on
the NTFS ??

The questions remains:
- How do I access a device which I do not see nowhere
- Can't I force W2K to do a CHKDSK at boot time

Frank


"Maxim S. Shatskih" wrote:

> > 2. Which tool do I use to read on a sector level basis or from a
> > physical device
>
> Admin-wise: DSKPROBE
> Developer-wise: CreateFile on \\.\PhysicalDrive%d (i.e. 0, 1 and so on).
>
> --
> Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
> StorageCraft Corporation
> maxim(a)storagecraft.com
> http://www.storagecraft.com
>
>
>
From: Maxim S. Shatskih on
RawFS has 1 and only 1 purpose - to support GetVolumeInformation on the
drive which contains no recognized FS.

--
Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
StorageCraft Corporation
maxim(a)storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com

"David J. Craig" <SeniorDriversWriter(a)shogunyoshimuni.com.net> wrote in message
news:%23KSfJTerFHA.1252(a)TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> No. No. No.
>
> File Systems mount in the following order: Funny ones, Microsoft ones, RAW
> File System. File Systems only mount to volumes.
>
> It is a physical drive mounted as a physical drive. No RAW anything. Just
> a physical drive that consists of sector zero to N - 1.
>
> Try WinHex. Very good. Simple and easy to use. Some useful templates to
> interpret certain sectors. You can write your own templates for other
> sectors as you need.
>
> "Pavel A." <pavel_a(a)NOwritemeNO.com> wrote in message
> news:%237n8ufbrFHA.460(a)TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > Then, what is "raw mode"? Isn't accessing sectors or \\.\PhysicalDrive
> > raw mode?
> > --PA
> >
> > "Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim(a)storagecraft.com> wrote in message
> > news:eN$HAsZrFHA.1168(a)TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >>> 2. Which tool do I use to read on a sector level basis or from a
> >>> physical device
> >>
> >> Admin-wise: DSKPROBE
> >> Developer-wise: CreateFile on \\.\PhysicalDrive%d (i.e. 0, 1 and so on).
> >>
> >> --
> >> Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
> >> StorageCraft Corporation
> >> maxim(a)storagecraft.com
> >> http://www.storagecraft.com
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>


From: Pavel A. on
The USB interface is not dead, but the microdrive inside probably is.
--PA

"Frank L." <FrankL(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:ED5D1542-65BF-4926-912B-72506B29ADD5(a)microsoft.com...
>
> Looks interesting, yet it does not work.
>
> The device does not get mounted. Therefore no letter
> is assigned to it.
>
> DSKPROBE works in two ways:
> 1. Opening by drive letter
> No letter, no opening possible
>
> 2. Opening by physical device
> I do not see the physical device, therefore I can't open it
>
> The device is not dead, otherwise handshaking would not occur and
> actually end up with SUCCESFUL.
>
> It is the READ of the data, which fails. Not to forget how the issue
> came up:
> I tried to copy 136 M onto the device and got a "Write delay failed"
> message. Then I unplugged the device which caused the message
> "You have unplugged without stopping the device" or such.
>
> What happened here ?
> Some sectors were written onto the device but the file system was not
> updated eventually. To me there is a mismatch between the file system
> and the actual data on the device. Is there a flag like the "dirty flag" on
> the NTFS ??
>
> The questions remains:
> - How do I access a device which I do not see nowhere
> - Can't I force W2K to do a CHKDSK at boot time
>
> Frank
>
>
> "Maxim S. Shatskih" wrote:
>
>> > 2. Which tool do I use to read on a sector level basis or from a
>> > physical device
>>
>> Admin-wise: DSKPROBE
>> Developer-wise: CreateFile on \\.\PhysicalDrive%d (i.e. 0, 1 and so on).
>>
>> --
>> Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
>> StorageCraft Corporation
>> maxim(a)storagecraft.com
>> http://www.storagecraft.com
>>
>>
>>