From: Pavel A. on 30 Aug 2005 19:09 Then, what is "raw mode"? Isn't accessing sectors or \\.\PhysicalDrive raw mode? --PA "Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim(a)storagecraft.com> wrote in message news:eN$HAsZrFHA.1168(a)TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... >> 2. Which tool do I use to read on a sector level basis or from a >> physical device > > Admin-wise: DSKPROBE > Developer-wise: CreateFile on \\.\PhysicalDrive%d (i.e. 0, 1 and so on). > > -- > Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP > StorageCraft Corporation > maxim(a)storagecraft.com > http://www.storagecraft.com > >
From: David J. Craig on 31 Aug 2005 00:30 No. No. No. File Systems mount in the following order: Funny ones, Microsoft ones, RAW File System. File Systems only mount to volumes. It is a physical drive mounted as a physical drive. No RAW anything. Just a physical drive that consists of sector zero to N - 1. Try WinHex. Very good. Simple and easy to use. Some useful templates to interpret certain sectors. You can write your own templates for other sectors as you need. "Pavel A." <pavel_a(a)NOwritemeNO.com> wrote in message news:%237n8ufbrFHA.460(a)TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > Then, what is "raw mode"? Isn't accessing sectors or \\.\PhysicalDrive > raw mode? > --PA > > "Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim(a)storagecraft.com> wrote in message > news:eN$HAsZrFHA.1168(a)TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... >>> 2. Which tool do I use to read on a sector level basis or from a >>> physical device >> >> Admin-wise: DSKPROBE >> Developer-wise: CreateFile on \\.\PhysicalDrive%d (i.e. 0, 1 and so on). >> >> -- >> Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP >> StorageCraft Corporation >> maxim(a)storagecraft.com >> http://www.storagecraft.com >> >> > >
From: Frank L. on 31 Aug 2005 03:10 Looks interesting, yet it does not work. The device does not get mounted. Therefore no letter is assigned to it. DSKPROBE works in two ways: 1. Opening by drive letter No letter, no opening possible 2. Opening by physical device I do not see the physical device, therefore I can't open it The device is not dead, otherwise handshaking would not occur and actually end up with SUCCESFUL. It is the READ of the data, which fails. Not to forget how the issue came up: I tried to copy 136 M onto the device and got a "Write delay failed" message. Then I unplugged the device which caused the message "You have unplugged without stopping the device" or such. What happened here ? Some sectors were written onto the device but the file system was not updated eventually. To me there is a mismatch between the file system and the actual data on the device. Is there a flag like the "dirty flag" on the NTFS ?? The questions remains: - How do I access a device which I do not see nowhere - Can't I force W2K to do a CHKDSK at boot time Frank "Maxim S. Shatskih" wrote: > > 2. Which tool do I use to read on a sector level basis or from a > > physical device > > Admin-wise: DSKPROBE > Developer-wise: CreateFile on \\.\PhysicalDrive%d (i.e. 0, 1 and so on). > > -- > Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP > StorageCraft Corporation > maxim(a)storagecraft.com > http://www.storagecraft.com > > >
From: Maxim S. Shatskih on 31 Aug 2005 08:07 RawFS has 1 and only 1 purpose - to support GetVolumeInformation on the drive which contains no recognized FS. -- Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP StorageCraft Corporation maxim(a)storagecraft.com http://www.storagecraft.com "David J. Craig" <SeniorDriversWriter(a)shogunyoshimuni.com.net> wrote in message news:%23KSfJTerFHA.1252(a)TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > No. No. No. > > File Systems mount in the following order: Funny ones, Microsoft ones, RAW > File System. File Systems only mount to volumes. > > It is a physical drive mounted as a physical drive. No RAW anything. Just > a physical drive that consists of sector zero to N - 1. > > Try WinHex. Very good. Simple and easy to use. Some useful templates to > interpret certain sectors. You can write your own templates for other > sectors as you need. > > "Pavel A." <pavel_a(a)NOwritemeNO.com> wrote in message > news:%237n8ufbrFHA.460(a)TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > > Then, what is "raw mode"? Isn't accessing sectors or \\.\PhysicalDrive > > raw mode? > > --PA > > > > "Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim(a)storagecraft.com> wrote in message > > news:eN$HAsZrFHA.1168(a)TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > >>> 2. Which tool do I use to read on a sector level basis or from a > >>> physical device > >> > >> Admin-wise: DSKPROBE > >> Developer-wise: CreateFile on \\.\PhysicalDrive%d (i.e. 0, 1 and so on). > >> > >> -- > >> Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP > >> StorageCraft Corporation > >> maxim(a)storagecraft.com > >> http://www.storagecraft.com > >> > >> > > > > > >
From: Pavel A. on 31 Aug 2005 17:27
The USB interface is not dead, but the microdrive inside probably is. --PA "Frank L." <FrankL(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:ED5D1542-65BF-4926-912B-72506B29ADD5(a)microsoft.com... > > Looks interesting, yet it does not work. > > The device does not get mounted. Therefore no letter > is assigned to it. > > DSKPROBE works in two ways: > 1. Opening by drive letter > No letter, no opening possible > > 2. Opening by physical device > I do not see the physical device, therefore I can't open it > > The device is not dead, otherwise handshaking would not occur and > actually end up with SUCCESFUL. > > It is the READ of the data, which fails. Not to forget how the issue > came up: > I tried to copy 136 M onto the device and got a "Write delay failed" > message. Then I unplugged the device which caused the message > "You have unplugged without stopping the device" or such. > > What happened here ? > Some sectors were written onto the device but the file system was not > updated eventually. To me there is a mismatch between the file system > and the actual data on the device. Is there a flag like the "dirty flag" on > the NTFS ?? > > The questions remains: > - How do I access a device which I do not see nowhere > - Can't I force W2K to do a CHKDSK at boot time > > Frank > > > "Maxim S. Shatskih" wrote: > >> > 2. Which tool do I use to read on a sector level basis or from a >> > physical device >> >> Admin-wise: DSKPROBE >> Developer-wise: CreateFile on \\.\PhysicalDrive%d (i.e. 0, 1 and so on). >> >> -- >> Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP >> StorageCraft Corporation >> maxim(a)storagecraft.com >> http://www.storagecraft.com >> >> >> |