From: Steve Jain [MVP] on
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:33:23 -0600, Grand_Poobah
<whatever(a)yaddayadda.kom> wrote:

>--->
>> On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:32:38 -0500, Grand_Poobah
>> <whatever(a)yaddayadda.kom> wrote:
>>
>>> My thanks to all who contributed to this thread. I downloaded and
>>> installed both VMWare Reader and the Ubuntu 8.10 pre-configured OS.
>>> Both work flawlessly and did so right out of the "box". Since I had no
>>> need to interact between host and guest I wasn't concerned that I
>>> couldn't "see" my own computer's shared directories and such. I could
>>> see the rest of the computers on the LAN as well as the Internet.
>>>
>>> This is a great place to get advice.
>>>
>>
>> And you now have the benefit of using USB devices in the Linux guest
>> too...
>> If you install the vmware tools (if they are not already installed)
>> you will get mouse integration as well. I installed Ubuntu 8.10 about
>> a week after release into my VMWare Workstation 6.5 (no hassle doing
>> it from the Ubuntu CD, really). Then I was prompted to install the
>> tools as well so I did that, but afterwards the mouse integration did
>> not work. :-(
>> Asked my daughter about it (she works on the VMWare team developing
>> the stuff) and she said that they had noted it but it was an Ubuntu
>> thing.
>> After a few days and after my Ubuntu had made the regular updates I
>> suddenly had mouse integration working! And that was *without* doing
>> anything to the vmware tools. Just getting Ubuntu to update itself
>> about 2 weeks after release of 8.10 fixed the problem. :-)
>>
>
>Very cool, indeed. I was a bit leery of the menu item for connecting my
>external USB drive (on the host) because of the parenthetical phrase
>that was added stating("disconnect from host)" or something like that.
>When I clicked it, my host immediately complained that I had unplugged a
>USB device without notifying it.
>
>I have spent most of the day testing my web pages and decided that I
>didn't really need the VMWare on my laptop but, instead, would install
>it on my desktop when I got home. The uninstall did NOT go well.
>Halfway through the uninstall it stalled and then things got really bad.
>The drivers for the VMWare network that gets installed hung, the
>uninstaller quit working and eventually explorer.exe stopped responding.
> I eventually managed to recover from that by trying an uninstall in
>safe mode - surprise - VMWare wasn't in the list but all the icons and
>directories in Program Files were still there. It was loads of fun
>untangling VMWare from my system and getting it back into order. You
>wouldn't believe the amount of Event Log errors that popped up.
>
>Things are apparently back to normal now that I ended up cleaning up the
>Program Files directory for VMWare manually.
>
>GP

I've run into that with the Workstation product. VMWare installs a
lot of services and other hooks into the system...when it goes wrong
it can really go wrong.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
From: Bo Berglund on
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:33:23 -0600, Grand_Poobah
<whatever(a)yaddayadda.kom> wrote:

>
>I have spent most of the day testing my web pages and decided that I
>didn't really need the VMWare on my laptop but, instead, would install
>it on my desktop when I got home. The uninstall did NOT go well.
>Halfway through the uninstall it stalled and then things got really bad.
>The drivers for the VMWare network that gets installed hung, the
>uninstaller quit working and eventually explorer.exe stopped responding.
> I eventually managed to recover from that by trying an uninstall in
>safe mode - surprise - VMWare wasn't in the list but all the icons and
>directories in Program Files were still there. It was loads of fun
>untangling VMWare from my system and getting it back into order. You
>wouldn't believe the amount of Event Log errors that popped up.
>
>Things are apparently back to normal now that I ended up cleaning up the
>Program Files directory for VMWare manually.
>

I wonder if a system restore would not have fixed that (to a restore
point immediately before the install of Player)...

--

Bo Berglund (Sweden)
From: FACE on
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:42:09 -0800, in microsoft.public.virtualpc,
"Steve Jain [MVP]" <noreply.-@-.essjae.com>, wrote

>I've run into that with the Workstation product. VMWare installs a
>lot of services and other hooks into the system...when it goes wrong
>it can really go wrong.

That is the main reason i went to virtualbox. VMWare appears to want to
"own" the machine.

FACE

From: Grand_Poobah on
>
> I wonder if a system restore would not have fixed that (to a restore
> point immediately before the install of Player)...
>

I gave that a try right after the failed uninstall. It managed to
recover enough so I was able to stop the various services that VMWare
put into my system. Once they were stopped, I could then kill them in
the registry and got MSCONFIG to stop the rest of them.

VMWare certainly DOES want to own the machine. It slips tentacles into
every nook and cranny of the OS. It even affected my wireless
connection to the point that it would hang on shutdown citing "another
network did not shut down properly". Turned out that one was the VMDHCP
service and the NAT service.

I'll not make that mistake again.

GP
From: Grand_Poobah on
--->
> On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:42:09 -0800, in microsoft.public.virtualpc,
> "Steve Jain [MVP]" <noreply.-@-.essjae.com>, wrote
>
>> I've run into that with the Workstation product. VMWare installs a
>> lot of services and other hooks into the system...when it goes wrong
>> it can really go wrong.
>
> That is the main reason i went to virtualbox. VMWare appears to want to
> "own" the machine.
>
> FACE
>

Got that right. My thanks to everyone here. See my other post to Bo
for details - if you dare! :)

GP