From: PA Bear [MS MVP] on 24 Apr 2010 18:55 What Lem said. PS: You're not doing yourself any favors by always starting new threads about this computer & your problems. LewB wrote: > Yeah Bear it is me again trying to do what you suggested several weeks > ago. > I can't format this HDD from Setup Disc. It won't boot to Setup as > described. So how can I format and start over? Pegasus says I have > motherboard and disc drive problems. Hopefully not. If I R click on C > and > go to format, windows will not allow it because of other utilities > running. > I don't know where they are and how to shut them down or if this is the > way > to do a format since the Setup is not cooperating with the boot process. > LB > >> [You're still messing around with that computer?!] >> >>> I have Microsoft Security Essentials [installed]... >> >> If you're doing a clean install, you must format the HDD. If you've >> formatted the HDD, Microsoft Security Essentials is not installed. >> >> =============================== >> >> HOW TO do a clean install of WinXP: See >> http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html#steps and/or Method 1 >> in >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/978307 >> >> After the clean install, you will have the equivalent of a "new computer" >> so >> take care of everything on the following page before otherwise connecting >> the machine to the internet or a local network (i.e., other computers) >> and >> before using a flash drive or SDCard that isn't brand-new or hasn't been >> freshly formatted: >> >> 4 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online >> http://www.microsoft.com/security/pypc.aspx >> >> Other helpful references include: >> >> HOW TO get a computer running WinXP Gold (no Service Packs) fully patched >> (after a clean install) >> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/msg/3f5afa8ed33e121c >> >> HOW TO get a computer running WinXP SP1(a) or SP2 fully patched (after a >> clean install) >> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/msg/a066ae41add7dd2b >> >> Tip: After getting the computer fully-patched, download/install KB971029 >> manually: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971029 >> >> NB: Any Norton or McAfee free-trial that came preinstalled on the >> computer >> when you bought it will be reinstalled (but invalid) when Windows is >> reinstalled. You MUST uninstall the free-trial and download/run the >> appropriate removal tool before installing any updates, Windows Service >> Packs or IE upgrades and before installing your new anti-virus >> application >> (which will require WinXP SP3 to be installed). >> >> Norton Removal Tool >> >> ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/removal_tools/Norton_Removal_Tool.exe >> >> McAfee Consumer Products Removal Tool >> >> http://download.mcafee.com/products/licensed/cust_support_patches/MCPR.exe >> >> -- >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 >> >> >> >> LewB wrote: >>> I want to do a clean install of WinXP.Pro. I have the original Setup >>> disc >>> and a slipstreamed SP3 disc. Both will not boot from the CD drive. It >>> is >>> set correctly in the BIOS. When the system is restarted with the disc >>> in >>> place the system does displace the "click any key to boot from the CD" >>> but >>> when this is done Windows boots normally. In BIOS there are 3 listed in >>> "boot devise priority". >>> 1st CD/DVD-0: DVD-ROM-16X6S >>> 2nd CD/DVD-1: TSST Corp CD/DVDW SH-S182M >>> 3rd CD/DVD-0:DVD-ROM DVD-16x6S >>> The 1st and 3rd are essentially the same. I only have two optical >>> drives. >>> But trying both discs in each drive produces the same result. The disc >>> itself suggests disabling all AV program. I have Microsoft Security >>> Essentials but there are no directions about disabling it....or if that >>> is >>> critical. >>> LJB >> >> .
From: Daave on 24 Apr 2010 19:28 LewB wrote: > I want to do a clean install of WinXP.Pro. I have the original > Setup disc and a slipstreamed SP3 disc. Both will not boot from the > CD drive. It is set correctly in the BIOS. When the system is > restarted with the disc in place the system does displace the "click > any key to boot from the CD" but when this is done Windows boots > normally. Try another keyboard. What kind of keyboard do you have? PS/2 or USB? Wireless perhaps? Is there a keyboard-specific setting in the BIOS that may need to be changed? If it's not the keyboard, then either both CDs are bad or the CD drive is bad.
From: LewB on 24 Apr 2010 20:22 I'm not sure what you want me to do then? I thought that is what this site is for, to help those of us that are having problems. Is there a limit to how many questions one can ask? I'll be happy to discuss this with the site administrator. -- LJB "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > What Lem said. > > PS: You're not doing yourself any favors by always starting new threads > about this computer & your problems. > > > LewB wrote: > > Yeah Bear it is me again trying to do what you suggested several weeks > > ago. > > I can't format this HDD from Setup Disc. It won't boot to Setup as > > described. So how can I format and start over? Pegasus says I have > > motherboard and disc drive problems. Hopefully not. If I R click on C > > and > > go to format, windows will not allow it because of other utilities > > running. > > I don't know where they are and how to shut them down or if this is the > > way > > to do a format since the Setup is not cooperating with the boot process. > > LB > > > >> [You're still messing around with that computer?!] > >> > >>> I have Microsoft Security Essentials [installed]... > >> > >> If you're doing a clean install, you must format the HDD. If you've > >> formatted the HDD, Microsoft Security Essentials is not installed. > >> > >> =============================== > >> > >> HOW TO do a clean install of WinXP: See > >> http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html#steps and/or Method 1 > >> in > >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/978307 > >> > >> After the clean install, you will have the equivalent of a "new computer" > >> so > >> take care of everything on the following page before otherwise connecting > >> the machine to the internet or a local network (i.e., other computers) > >> and > >> before using a flash drive or SDCard that isn't brand-new or hasn't been > >> freshly formatted: > >> > >> 4 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online > >> http://www.microsoft.com/security/pypc.aspx > >> > >> Other helpful references include: > >> > >> HOW TO get a computer running WinXP Gold (no Service Packs) fully patched > >> (after a clean install) > >> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/msg/3f5afa8ed33e121c > >> > >> HOW TO get a computer running WinXP SP1(a) or SP2 fully patched (after a > >> clean install) > >> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/msg/a066ae41add7dd2b > >> > >> Tip: After getting the computer fully-patched, download/install KB971029 > >> manually: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971029 > >> > >> NB: Any Norton or McAfee free-trial that came preinstalled on the > >> computer > >> when you bought it will be reinstalled (but invalid) when Windows is > >> reinstalled. You MUST uninstall the free-trial and download/run the > >> appropriate removal tool before installing any updates, Windows Service > >> Packs or IE upgrades and before installing your new anti-virus > >> application > >> (which will require WinXP SP3 to be installed). > >> > >> Norton Removal Tool > >> > >> ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/removal_tools/Norton_Removal_Tool.exe > >> > >> McAfee Consumer Products Removal Tool > >> > >> http://download.mcafee.com/products/licensed/cust_support_patches/MCPR.exe > >> > >> -- > >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) > >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 > >> > >> > >> > >> LewB wrote: > >>> I want to do a clean install of WinXP.Pro. I have the original Setup > >>> disc > >>> and a slipstreamed SP3 disc. Both will not boot from the CD drive. It > >>> is > >>> set correctly in the BIOS. When the system is restarted with the disc > >>> in > >>> place the system does displace the "click any key to boot from the CD" > >>> but > >>> when this is done Windows boots normally. In BIOS there are 3 listed in > >>> "boot devise priority". > >>> 1st CD/DVD-0: DVD-ROM-16X6S > >>> 2nd CD/DVD-1: TSST Corp CD/DVDW SH-S182M > >>> 3rd CD/DVD-0:DVD-ROM DVD-16x6S > >>> The 1st and 3rd are essentially the same. I only have two optical > >>> drives. > >>> But trying both discs in each drive produces the same result. The disc > >>> itself suggests disabling all AV program. I have Microsoft Security > >>> Essentials but there are no directions about disabling it....or if that > >>> is > >>> critical. > >>> LJB > >> > >> . > > . >
From: LewB on 24 Apr 2010 20:26 Well it does boot to Setup on another computer. And after windows comes up following a standard boot, placing the disc in the disk drive loads setup normally and gives me all the options. I could reinstall XP at that time but I presume this would not be a clean install. -- LJB "Lem" wrote: > LewB wrote: > > Yeah Bear it is me again trying to do what you suggested several weeks ago. > > I can't format this HDD from Setup Disc. It won't boot to Setup as > > described. So how can I format and start over? Pegasus says I have > > motherboard and disc drive problems. Hopefully not. If I R click on C and > > go to format, windows will not allow it because of other utilities running. > > I don't know where they are and how to shut them down or if this is the way > > to do a format since the Setup is not cooperating with the boot process. > > LB > > Of the four possibilities Pegasus suggested, your description makes it > seem as if option 2 is the most likely: "The boot CD/DVD was not a boot > disk or was damaged." > > What exactly is your "original setup disk"? What words are printed on it? > > Where did the "slipstreamed SP3 disc" come from? If you made it, what > did you use as the base CD? > > Have you tried either of these CDs on another computer? You don't have > to install anything on the other computer, just confirm (or not) that > the CD boots. > > Have you created another bootable CD as Pegasus suggested to determine > if your hardware was capable of booting from *any* CD? > > -- > Lem > > Apollo 11 - 40 years ago: > http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/40th/index.html > . >
From: PA Bear [MS MVP] on 24 Apr 2010 20:33
My point is that you should be posting any/all follow-up in replies to (one of) your original, earlier thread(s) so that anyone wishing to assist you will have the complete history available to them. LewB wrote: > I'm not sure what you want me to do then? I thought that is what this > site > is for, to help those of us that are having problems. Is there a limit to > how many questions one can ask? I'll be happy to discuss this with the > site > administrator. > >> What Lem said. >> >> PS: You're not doing yourself any favors by always starting new threads >> about this computer & your problems. >> >> >> LewB wrote: >>> Yeah Bear it is me again trying to do what you suggested several weeks >>> ago. >>> I can't format this HDD from Setup Disc. It won't boot to Setup as >>> described. So how can I format and start over? Pegasus says I have >>> motherboard and disc drive problems. Hopefully not. If I R click on C >>> and >>> go to format, windows will not allow it because of other utilities >>> running. >>> I don't know where they are and how to shut them down or if this is the >>> way >>> to do a format since the Setup is not cooperating with the boot >>> process. >>> LB >>> >>>> [You're still messing around with that computer?!] >>>> >>>>> I have Microsoft Security Essentials [installed]... >>>> >>>> If you're doing a clean install, you must format the HDD. If you've >>>> formatted the HDD, Microsoft Security Essentials is not installed. >>>> >>>> =============================== >>>> >>>> HOW TO do a clean install of WinXP: See >>>> http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html#steps and/or Method >>>> 1 >>>> in >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/978307 >>>> >>>> After the clean install, you will have the equivalent of a "new >>>> computer" >>>> so >>>> take care of everything on the following page before otherwise >>>> connecting >>>> the machine to the internet or a local network (i.e., other computers) >>>> and >>>> before using a flash drive or SDCard that isn't brand-new or hasn't >>>> been >>>> freshly formatted: >>>> >>>> 4 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online >>>> http://www.microsoft.com/security/pypc.aspx >>>> >>>> Other helpful references include: >>>> >>>> HOW TO get a computer running WinXP Gold (no Service Packs) fully >>>> patched >>>> (after a clean install) >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/msg/3f5afa8ed33e121c >>>> >>>> HOW TO get a computer running WinXP SP1(a) or SP2 fully patched (after >>>> a >>>> clean install) >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/msg/a066ae41add7dd2b >>>> >>>> Tip: After getting the computer fully-patched, download/install >>>> KB971029 >>>> manually: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971029 >>>> >>>> NB: Any Norton or McAfee free-trial that came preinstalled on the >>>> computer >>>> when you bought it will be reinstalled (but invalid) when Windows is >>>> reinstalled. You MUST uninstall the free-trial and download/run the >>>> appropriate removal tool before installing any updates, Windows >>>> Service >>>> Packs or IE upgrades and before installing your new anti-virus >>>> application >>>> (which will require WinXP SP3 to be installed). >>>> >>>> Norton Removal Tool >>>> >>>> ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/removal_tools/Norton_Removal_Tool.exe >>>> >>>> McAfee Consumer Products Removal Tool >>>> >>>> http://download.mcafee.com/products/licensed/cust_support_patches/MCPR.exe >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) >>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> LewB wrote: >>>>> I want to do a clean install of WinXP.Pro. I have the original >>>>> Setup >>>>> disc >>>>> and a slipstreamed SP3 disc. Both will not boot from the CD drive. >>>>> It >>>>> is >>>>> set correctly in the BIOS. When the system is restarted with the >>>>> disc >>>>> in >>>>> place the system does displace the "click any key to boot from the >>>>> CD" >>>>> but >>>>> when this is done Windows boots normally. In BIOS there are 3 listed >>>>> in >>>>> "boot devise priority". >>>>> 1st CD/DVD-0: DVD-ROM-16X6S >>>>> 2nd CD/DVD-1: TSST Corp CD/DVDW SH-S182M >>>>> 3rd CD/DVD-0:DVD-ROM DVD-16x6S >>>>> The 1st and 3rd are essentially the same. I only have two optical >>>>> drives. >>>>> But trying both discs in each drive produces the same result. The >>>>> disc >>>>> itself suggests disabling all AV program. I have Microsoft Security >>>>> Essentials but there are no directions about disabling it....or if >>>>> that >>>>> is >>>>> critical. >>>>> LJB >>>> >>>> . >> >> . |