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From: Nathan on 21 Dec 2009 21:57 Shenan Stanley wrote: > <snip> > > Nathan wrote: >> Do I really need .NET Framework 3.5? > > Don't know. > > I would gather that if you have it uninstalled now and nothing else is *not* > working - you don't/didn't need it. > > The .NET Frameworks are just bases for software writers to use in their > applications if they so desire - so their code doesn't have to be quite so > large and so that they have access to some internal mechanisms in > easier/better ways. > > Unfortunately - the .NET Frameworks were not cumulative. 1.1, 2.0, 3.0, 3.5 > and soon 4.0. Yay. > > Do you *need* any/all of them - depends on what you have installed. Most > applications will tell you that you need them and/or offer to install them > if they do need them. ;-) > > At this point - if the machine was mine - I would follow these directions: > http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistawu/thread/ea20ba99-017e-4ae0-975b-1ef8b771dff8 > > In other words... Use the .NET Cleanup Tool (Method 2), reboot and install > the .NET Updates in this order: > > - .Net Framework 3.5 > (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=333325FD-AE52-4E35-B531-508D977D32A6) > - .Net Framework 1.1 > (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=262D25E3-F589-4842-8157-034D1E7CF3A3&) > - .Net Framework 1.1 SP1 > (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=A8F5654F-088E-40B2-BBDB-A83353618B38&) > > Should be good to go. > > Needs repeating in full? > When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update you may > receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 (23 Oct-09) > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982 > > ===================== > > Step #1 => Before doing anything else, write down what .NET Framework > versions are currently installed: > > How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed and > whether service packs have been applied > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785 > > Step #2 => Now see Resolution Method 2 in this related KB article... > > When you try to install an update for the .NET Framework 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, 3.0, > or 3.5, you may receive Windows Update error code "0x643" or Windows > Installer error code "1603" (ignore the title, if need be) > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100 > > After running the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool, reinstall all .NET Framework > versions (but only the ones you wrote down in #1 above) manually using the > download links on the page then run Windows Update manually to install > security updates for same. > > NB: If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1) using the tool, reinstalling .NET > Framework 3.5 will also install .Net Framework 2.0 SP2 and 3.0 SP2; then > Windows Update will offer .NET Framework 3.5 SP1. > > IMPORTANT! => If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1), reinstall your .NET > Framework versions in the following order: > > 1. .Net Framework 3.5, then... > 2. .Net Framework 1.1, then... > 3. .Net Framework 1.1 SP1 > > NB: KB923100 references this page: > http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archive/2006/05/30/611355.aspx. Please read > ALL of it as well as the related page > http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/pages/8904493.aspx before using the .NET > Framework Cleanup Tool. > So far so good, that did it. Too bad that I had to jump through hoops to have it done. All this time that I was trying to fix it I turned off the Automatic Update. Do you think I can turn it back on? Scarred to touch anything so it won't set me back somewhere else. Thank you for being so patient and helping out. Nathan
From: Shenan Stanley on 22 Dec 2009 01:45 <snip> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain/browse_frm/thread/1e3e5da20a1fc839/ Nathan wrote: > Do I really need .NET Framework 3.5? Shenan Stanley wrote: > Don't know. > > I would gather that if you have it uninstalled now and nothing else > is *not* working - you don't/didn't need it. > > The .NET Frameworks are just bases for software writers to use in > their applications if they so desire - so their code doesn't have > to be quite so large and so that they have access to some internal > mechanisms in easier/better ways. > > Unfortunately - the .NET Frameworks were not cumulative. 1.1, 2.0, > 3.0, 3.5 and soon 4.0. Yay. > > Do you *need* any/all of them - depends on what you have installed. > Most applications will tell you that you need them and/or offer to > install them if they do need them. ;-) > > At this point - if the machine was mine - I would follow these > directions: > http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistawu/thread/ea20ba99-017e-4ae0-975b-1ef8b771dff8 > > In other words... Use the .NET Cleanup Tool (Method 2), reboot and > install the .NET Updates in this order: > > - .Net Framework 3.5 > (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=333325FD-AE52-4E35-B531-508D977D32A6) > - .Net Framework 1.1 > (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=262D25E3-F589-4842-8157-034D1E7CF3A3&) > - .Net Framework 1.1 SP1 > (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=A8F5654F-088E-40B2-BBDB-A83353618B38&) > > Should be good to go. > > Needs repeating in full? > When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update > you may receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 (23 Oct-09) > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982 > > ===================== > > Step #1 => Before doing anything else, write down what .NET > Framework versions are currently installed: > > How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed > and whether service packs have been applied > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785 > > Step #2 => Now see Resolution Method 2 in this related KB article... > > When you try to install an update for the .NET Framework 1.0, 1.1, > 2.0, 3.0, or 3.5, you may receive Windows Update error code "0x643" > or Windows Installer error code "1603" (ignore the title, if need > be) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100 > > After running the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool, reinstall all .NET > Framework versions (but only the ones you wrote down in #1 above) > manually using the download links on the page then run Windows > Update manually to install security updates for same. > > NB: If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1) using the tool, > reinstalling .NET Framework 3.5 will also install .Net Framework > 2.0 SP2 and 3.0 SP2; then Windows Update will offer .NET Framework > 3.5 SP1. > IMPORTANT! => If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1), reinstall > your .NET Framework versions in the following order: > > 1. .Net Framework 3.5, then... > 2. .Net Framework 1.1, then... > 3. .Net Framework 1.1 SP1 > > NB: KB923100 references this page: > http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archive/2006/05/30/611355.aspx. Please read > ALL of it as well as the related page > http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/pages/8904493.aspx before using the > .NET Framework Cleanup Tool. Nathan wrote: > So far so good, that did it. Too bad that I had to jump through > hoops to have it done. > All this time that I was trying to fix it I turned off the Automatic > Update. Do you think I can turn it back on? Scarred to touch > anything so it won't set me back somewhere else. > Thank you for being so patient and helping out. On my Windows XP machines (personal) I have automatic updates set to "Notify me but don't automatically download or install them" and generally when I get notified, I visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and do a custom scan for updates and review/install what it finds under all categories other than "Optional Hardware" as I see fit. Some I will hide, some I will install. In this way I still get notified of updates when they are released (out-of-band in particular) - but I have the control, I make the decision on what is to be installed and it gives me the time to take any extra precautions I deem necessary first. Most of the time it is nothing more than an extra backups, system state backup - sometimes it can be a full image of my system partition. Depends on what I discover (I will lurk the newsgroups here - particularly the WindowsUpdate newsgroup - and see if others start reporting issues before I do anything.) I'm glad you have things sorted thus far! -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
From: Nathan on 22 Dec 2009 09:40 Shenan Stanley wrote: <snip> > Nathan wrote: >> So far so good, that did it. Too bad that I had to jump through >> hoops to have it done. >> All this time that I was trying to fix it I turned off the Automatic >> Update. Do you think I can turn it back on? Scarred to touch >> anything so it won't set me back somewhere else. >> Thank you for being so patient and helping out. > > On my Windows XP machines (personal) I have automatic updates set to "Notify > me but don't automatically download or install them" and generally when I > get notified, I visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and do a custom > scan for updates and review/install what it finds under all categories other > than "Optional Hardware" as I see fit. Some I will hide, some I will > install. > > In this way I still get notified of updates when they are released > (out-of-band in particular) - but I have the control, I make the decision on > what is to be installed and it gives me the time to take any extra > precautions I deem necessary first. Most of the time it is nothing more > than an extra backups, system state backup - sometimes it can be a full > image of my system partition. Depends on what I discover (I will lurk the > newsgroups here - particularly the WindowsUpdate newsgroup - and see if > others start reporting issues before I do anything.) > > I'm glad you have things sorted thus far! > Thanks again...one more question... how do I HIDE and update? Nathan
From: Shenan Stanley on 1 Jan 2010 13:03
<snip> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain/browse_frm/thread/1e3e5da20a1fc839/ Shenan Stanley wrote: <snipped> > I'm glad you have things sorted thus far! Nathan wrote: > Thanks again...one more question... how do I HIDE and update? Look through these: http://forums.techguy.org/windows-xp/514829-solved-how-do-you-hide.html http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-xp/how-to-hide-updates/167130.html http://forums.techguy.org/windows-xp/549799-hide-windows-update.html -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |