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From: Nepatsfan on 16 Mar 2008 20:33
"gcmom7 via WindowsKB.com" <u42153(a)uwe> wrote in message
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> Nepatsfan wrote:
>>>>>>>>I am trying to upgrade to XP w/SP2 from 98SE, via boot of CD. The XP
>>>>>>>>Setup
>>[quoted text clipped - 85 lines]
>>> where you want to store the backup copy, and then click Paste from the menu.
>>> [/b]
>>
>>OK, let's clear up some things from your earlier post. First off, Vista is not
>>an option as far as your current configuration goes. Adding an external drive
>>won't change that.
>>
>>Next, the minimum requirements that Microsoft lists for Windows XP are just
>>that, minimums. Yes, your components exceed the minimums, but install an
>>antivirus program, open a web site, and launch your email program and your
>>computer could get bogged down. As I said before, your computer will run XP,
>>but
>>it will struggle from time to time with various tasks. A program which
>>requires
>>a lot of RAM will slow your system to a crawl. Also, while NTFS is a more
>>efficient file system than FAT32, it's not going to produce a noticeable
>>increase in the speed of your computer.
>>
>>Moving on, I suspect the reason you saw the upgrade process stuck is that
>>Windows XP had a problem with one of your hardware devices. Keep in mind that
>>when installing or upgrading an operating system, the only items that should
>>be
>>connected to the computer are the keyboard, mouse, and monitor. You should
>>also
>>uninstall any antivirus or firewall programs that are running under Windows
>>98.
>>They, or equivalent XP versions, can be reinstalled once the upgrade is
>>complete.
>>
>>If you've decided to bite the bullet and go with a clean installation of XP,
>>you
>>not only have to back up your important files, you need to confirm that they
>>can
>>be restored. While XP includes a feature on the installation CD that will help
>>you back up and restore your old files, I'm a firm believer in the approach
>>you've outlined. I prefer to copy the actual files so they exist in their
>>native
>>format. While an external hard drive can be used for this purpose, I prefer to
>>burn the files to a CD or DVD. Whatever approach you take, make sure you can
>>open the files you've backed up. You don't want to complete the installation
>>of
>>XP and find that the files you thought were backed up can't be opened. Also,
>>if
>>you go with the external hard drive, disconnect it during the installation.
>>
>>Good luck
>>
>>Nepatsfan
>
> To let you know more of what I use on my comp, and do, I figured I'd give you
> this info.... I don't use Outlook on my comp, so it doesn't take up any room
> on my comp. I took that off, cuz I prefer Hotmail and Yahoo online. My
> antivirus also doesn't have all that extra stuff that ones like Norton and
> McAfee have----it's just the free AVG that I've used for 7 years now. So, it
> doesn't take up as much room as Norton or McAfee, or other similar programs.
>
> As for when I tried upgrading last night again and it not really completing
> (it basically 'hung up', though nothing seemed to indicate that), I did turn
> off everything, including the antivirus program, while upgrading. All that I
> had running, other than the Upgrade program, was Systray and Explorer. As for
> firewalls, I didn't have the AVG running, so that one was off. I do have a
> router between the comp and the cable internet connection; it was hooked up
> during the installation. I also had the printer still hooked up, though it
> was turned off. (though that probably didn't make any difference, I'm
> guessing...lol) I was thinking of running the Upgrade program again later
> today with the printer and router, as well as the cable internet connection,
> un-connected.
>
> I was happy to see that you were a firm believer in the hard drive plan,
> rather than the XP Upgrade's backup plan. Ha~ I get some 'points'. ~grin~
> I'm not certain if I can download documents to cd's with my comp. I'll have
> to try it out first, before picking up an external hard drive. (I'm certain I
> can't do DVD's, as I don't have that type of program here.) We usually just
> use the floppy disk, or have even just emailed our documents (for the
> students' school) to a comp email at school, where they print them off there.
> Plus, it will depend, too, on how many MB's of info we have to save.
>
> I'll let you know here how things proceed....thanks again for your help and
> time. I appreciate it much.
>
> --
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> http://www.windowskb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/windows-xp-setup/200803/1
>

You're welcome. Don't hesitate to post back if you have any other questions.

Good luck

Nepatsfan


From: mook on 19 Mar 2008 21:30
Personal experience: XP SP2 (Home) runs fine on a P3 800MHz-1GHz, 512M, 80M
HD in 2 40MB partitions. Some things (Movie Maker, heavy graphics/games) of
course don't work well or at all, but overall it's a useful machine for
ordinary purposes (OpenOffice, Canvas, basic web stuff). I wouldn't want it
for an -only- computer but it's fine for a secondary. It's an upgrade from
Win98SE and 1) starts up more quickly in XP than it did in 98, and 2)
actually seems to run more quickly for most things. So as long as you don't
have your expectations too high your P3 995 should work fine. The 233 would
certainly be underpowered though, and 64MB RAM is simply not enough. You DO
want to push the RAM up to at least 512MB and the HD to at least 60 MB
(80-120 would be better); can you cannibalize a couple of old boxes to
assemble one good one?

Recommend, too, that you back up all your data and do the clean-install
upgrade which is what you had started to do at the beginning. Let Setup wipe
the disk and, if it's bigger than 60-80 MB format with NTFS rather than
FAT32. Then reinstall everything. My experience is that the in-place 98SE
upgrade works but no matter how hard you try with disk cleanup and defrag
beforehand in 98SE things end up scattered all over the disk in ways that
XP's defrag just can't reas4semble, and mysterious problems do arise. So
schedule a weekend to hack on the box, make sure all the hardware is in good
shape, and go for it from scratch.

-Just a Plain Olde User...

"gcmom7" wrote:

> Nepatsfan wrote:
> >>I am trying to upgrade to XP w/SP2 from 98SE, via boot of CD. The XP Setup
> >> doesn't recognize a previous Windows OS on my comp, so it asked me to insert
> >[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> >> confirmation to this question of mine.
> >> LOL~ Thanks for your help and prompt replies. :-) Appreciate it.
> >
> >If you're aim in upgrading is to preserve your installed applications and data,
> >you're going about this the wrong way. You should start the upgrade from within
> >Windows 98. With Windows 98 running, put the CD in the drive. If it doesn't
> >autoplay, go into My Computer, open your CD drive, and click on setup.exe. This
> >should launch the installation process. You want to select the Upgrade option
> >when asked.
> >
> >By booting from the CD you'll end up with a fresh installation of XP, but you'll
> >then have to reinstall all your programs and restore your data. This isn't a bad
> >approach, but first make sure you've backed up all your important files.
> >
> >Here are some web sites you may find helpful.
> >
> >How to prepare to upgrade Windows 98 or Windows Millennium Edition to Windows XP
> >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;316639
> >
> >Upgrading to Windows XP
> >http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpupgrad.htm
> >
> >Good luck
> >
> >Nepatsfan
>
>
> Well, I was told that I wouldn't lose anything....that it would just upgrade.
> (it's only an Upgrade XP CD with SP2.), even if I booted from the CD. The
> reason I've had to boot from the CD is because when I do it thru 98SE on my
> regular desktop, it won't go thru the Dynamic Update that XP Upgrade has on
> it. It can't reach the website for some odd reason. (though I have cable
> internet and it is on constantly.) Then, once I click 'install w/o the
> Dynamic Update' (not exactly the same words there, but you get the gist), it
> hangs up (no blue screen though) and I have to exit the program. I've tried
> it, too, from the Check the Compatibility route, and the same thing happens.
> It was suggested that I try it from the boot of the CD instead. I have a
> Compaq Deskpro, Intel Pentium III, Desktop w/383 MB RAM, 32-bit file system. -
> --- Microsoft site is of not much help, as it refuses to recognize 98SE
> anymore and give any info on it....but, to install the XP Upgrade, I need Min.
> Hard Drive space of 1.5 GB ( I have 11.8GB Used, with 6.76 GB available) , I
> need Min. 64 MB Ram size (I have 383 MB Ram), it needs Min. Processor size of
> Intel Pentium 233 MHz ( I have Intel Pentium III 995MHz---determined at
> pcpitstop.com, which I use regularly---at least until they quit recognizing
> 98SE, too)
>
> Any suggestions??
>
>
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