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From: MEB on 24 Feb 2010 21:30
On 02/24/2010 09:18 PM, Geoff wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 20:57:42 -0500, MEB <MEB-not-here(a)hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 02/24/2010 08:31 PM, David Kaye wrote:
>>> MEB <MEB-not-here(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> AND I will remind both of you the ACTUAL interface to this forum is via
>>>> Microsoft's site, we just happen to be using the NNTP services to access it.
>>>
>>> I think you mean AN ACTUAL interface because I'm not reading or responding via
>>> any website at all. I'm using Usenet via the news.eternal-september.org
>>> Usenet server. I am using News Xpress, one of many hundreds of Usenet news
>>> readers available.
>>
>> So what, that means only YOUR access method. The forum is hosted on
>> Microsoft's servers, its interface is THE INTERFACE. We use a secondary
>> method of access.
>
> Historically and technically the microsoft.public.* groups are hosted
> on an NNTP server, the web interfaces are recent developments.

Ahh, I would beg to differ, but I've already done this discussion before
WITH the historical documentation referenced... so its a "whatever"
situation... I'm not doing it for the third or fourth time.

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From: David Kaye on 24 Feb 2010 21:30
MEB <MEB-not-here(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

> David indicated it came because of something in an alt. group, totally
>unrelated to THIS group.

I mentioned it in this group because I saw it in this group. Heck, right now
there appears to be a subject line in gibberish that was distributed within
the past half hour.

From: Geoff on 24 Feb 2010 21:35
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 02:05:02 GMT, sfdavidkaye2(a)yahoo.com (David Kaye)
wrote:

>Geoff <geoff(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>.... and what on earth prompted this crusade?
>
>Items have been posted here with gibberish from and subject lines. This
>doesn't happen in the other Usenet newsgroups I read, except for another virus
>newsgroup. It doesn't happen in soc.motss, ba.broadcast, rec,radio.broadcast,
>or even in the HUGE alt.english.usage newsgroup.
>
>But it happens here.

It happens across the spectrum of groups. I kill filtered it long ago.
Part of the problem is Asian spambots, others might be valid posters
posting in Unicode dialects. You can't prevent it, you can only filter
it out. People have the right to write in their own language
regardless of the "standard". Usenet needs to evolve or die and part
of that evolution would include accommodation of Unicode.

RFC's are not "standards" they are "requests for comments" expressing
a recommended standard for the Internet protocols to be used, ignored
or supplanted voluntarily. I don't know who is maintaining them since
Jon Postel died. I assume it's the IETF or a committee.

My news reader allows me to specify regex filters to kill spam or
character sequences I don't need to see.

It keeps me mentally stable and non-evangelical. :)

subject: {[�-�]+} (very aggressive)

subject: {[�-�].*[�-�].*[�-�].*[�-�]} (less aggressive)

Subject: =%{[^a-z]+}
From: MEB on 24 Feb 2010 21:39
On 02/24/2010 09:30 PM, David Kaye wrote:
> MEB <MEB-not-here(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> David indicated it came because of something in an alt. group, totally
>> unrelated to THIS group.
>
> I mentioned it in this group because I saw it in this group. Heck, right now
> there appears to be a subject line in gibberish that was distributed within
> the past half hour.
>

YEAH, duh, and in this discussion,,, make ya happy or what....

As for the other SUPPOSEDLY in this group [outside this discussion], it
was [as most are unless someone responds] removed by the server, so what
EXACTLY is the reason for posting again... bored maybe...

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From: Leythos on 25 Feb 2010 06:11
In article <hm49g5$g97$3(a)news.eternal-september.org>, sfdavidkaye2
@yahoo.com says...
> No, YOU don't understand that Usenet is American and does not allow for
> international coding.
>

Usenet, since I've been on it since 84, use to be an American thing,
but, thanks to improvements in telco systems around the world and the
fact that Microsoft found out about the internet, it's become a anything
goes type of place - and the MS groups are the worst.

The problem is that there are zillions of NON-Usenet interfaces to
Usenet, so many people don't have a clue that they are posting to
Usenet.

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