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From: Alan Plaid on 26 Mar 2010 13:16
want to use an LCD TV as a monitor - 32" is all I have room for. If
anyone hear has experience of doing this and knows a little about
resolutions etc I would like some advice.

I went to PCWorld and persuaded them to connect my Netbook (Advent 4211C
or MSI Wind) to a LG LH5000, and we seemed to get a good picture at it's
native resolution 1920 x 1080 although at one point the picture was
shunted lightly to the right. It took a lot of persuasion to get them to
try and they did not really know what they were doing.

I also tried an LG LH3000 in a Comet - although I got a picture, the res
looked all wrong. The difference between the 5000 and the 3000 models is
that the 3000 runs at 50Hz while the 5000 runs at 100Hz - Does one need
at least 100Hz to use one with a PC ?

I noticed that even though the LH5000 produced a good looking picture, it
was being driven at 60Hz, any attempt to bump it up gave a no signal
error.

Anyway, any info or advice would be good.
I am not expecting a picture of the quality of a top notch Monitor, I am
actually just after achieving larger icons at a reasonable res. The
trouble with large pc monitors is that they seem to run very high native
resolutions.

Thanks for any help.
From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on 26 Mar 2010 13:23
On 26 Mar 2010 17:16:39 GMT, Alan Plaid <nospam(a)here.com> wrote:

>I also tried an LG LH3000 in a Comet - although I got a picture, the res
>looked all wrong.

I'm using a 32" LH3000 here, with a Mac Mini as the media centre
(DVI->HDMI adapter). It's a bit funny about its resolutions - the
1080p and 720p both show black borders, as do various non-TV
resolutions. I eventually settled on 1360x768, which sizes perfectly
and makes the media player UI look fine too. I'm using it as a TV, not
a monitor, but I think it'd be okay from say 4 feet away.

I haven't played with the TV in order to persuade it to size the image
correctly in the 1080p mode, but a quick google showed that this sort
of thing seems to be pretty normal for some insane reason.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
"It has been said that man is a rational animal. All my life I have been
searching for evidence which could support this" -- Bertrand Russell
From: Alan Plaid on 26 Mar 2010 13:53
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote in
news:i4rpq5hi2i54m37i6q0u3u80i71c9057pa(a)4ax.com:

> On 26 Mar 2010 17:16:39 GMT, Alan Plaid <nospam(a)here.com> wrote:
>
>>I also tried an LG LH3000 in a Comet - although I got a picture, the
res
>>looked all wrong.
>
> I'm using a 32" LH3000 here, with a Mac Mini as the media centre
> (DVI->HDMI adapter). It's a bit funny about its resolutions - the
> 1080p and 720p both show black borders, as do various non-TV
> resolutions. I eventually settled on 1360x768, which sizes perfectly
> and makes the media player UI look fine too. I'm using it as a TV, not
> a monitor, but I think it'd be okay from say 4 feet away.
>
> I haven't played with the TV in order to persuade it to size the image
> correctly in the 1080p mode, but a quick google showed that this sort
> of thing seems to be pretty normal for some insane reason.
>
> Cheers - Jaimie

Hi Jamie - thanks for the reply. I tried the LH3000 (which has a 5oMhz
panel) yesterday, I did get a full screen image, but the picture looked
all wrong - like it does if you run an LCD in anything except it's
'native' resolution. That led me to try the LH5000 (which uses a 100Mhz
panel) which seemed to give a proper 1920 x 1080 display.

Obviously as you are a MAC user I am not sure how that compares to PC's -
I would imagine from what I saw yesterday that a 1360x768 would not look
great for me, but it might.

Thanks
From: Borg on 26 Mar 2010 15:30
I use mine through the HDMI out on the GFX card. Its great for films and
games but as for reading the text, forget it. I was very disappointed
with this. But it is a known Windows problem.

Using my Ubuntu box I get great text res.


From: Alan Plaid on 26 Mar 2010 20:22
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote in
news:t00qq5ttv4suuu2r43rfn8ti12slodnajr(a)4ax.com:

> On 26 Mar 2010 17:53:53 GMT, Alan Plaid <nospam(a)here.com> wrote:
>
>>Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote in
>>news:i4rpq5hi2i54m37i6q0u3u80i71c9057pa(a)4ax.com:
>>
>>> On 26 Mar 2010 17:16:39 GMT, Alan Plaid <nospam(a)here.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I also tried an LG LH3000 in a Comet - although I got a picture, the
>>res
>>>>looked all wrong.
>>>
>>> I'm using a 32" LH3000 here, with a Mac Mini as the media centre
>>> (DVI->HDMI adapter). It's a bit funny about its resolutions - the
>>> 1080p and 720p both show black borders, as do various non-TV
>>> resolutions. I eventually settled on 1360x768, which sizes perfectly
>>> and makes the media player UI look fine too. I'm using it as a TV, not
>>> a monitor, but I think it'd be okay from say 4 feet away.
>>>
>>> I haven't played with the TV in order to persuade it to size the image
>>> correctly in the 1080p mode, but a quick google showed that this sort
>>> of thing seems to be pretty normal for some insane reason.
>>>
>>> Cheers - Jaimie
>>
>>Hi Jamie - thanks for the reply. I tried the LH3000 (which has a 5oMhz
>>panel) yesterday, I did get a full screen image, but the picture looked
>>all wrong - like it does if you run an LCD in anything except it's
>>'native' resolution.
>
> Do you mean fuzzy, or out of proportion? Or both, of course!
>
> Mine's a little fuzzy because of being used at the non-native res, but
> it's in proportion and actually looks pretty good up close.
>
>>That led me to try the LH5000 (which uses a 100Mhz
>>panel) which seemed to give a proper 1920 x 1080 display.
>>
>>Obviously as you are a MAC user I am not sure how that compares to PC's
>
> Not a great deal if difference in this respect, no more than different
> video card drivers in a PC offering different options.
>
>>I would imagine from what I saw yesterday that a 1360x768 would not look
>>great for me, but it might.
>
> What signal are you passing to the panel, VGA or DVI/HDMI? If you're
> stuck with VGA this alone may make a significant difference.
>
> Cheers - Jaimie

Jaimie - thanks again for the reply.

Firstly, I was using the RGB VGA through a standard VGA cable - I am fairly
experienced with computer hardware and understand that cables and
connection types can make a difference but the problem I saw was to do with
resolution. If I set the monitor I currently use (an HP 22" L2208w - native
1680 x 1050) to 1360 x 768 (I have just done it as I type !) - then I see
that text now looks squidged and squeezed where the panel is having to
redistribute the pixels across the monitor as it is not running at a native
resolution. What I saw yesterdat was actually more 'jagged' than what I see
now but I think the type of effect is similar.

My feeling is I need a panel that I can run at it's native resolution -
when the LH5000 was running at 1920 x 1080 - the text looked crisp and
sharp when I first got it plugged in even though it was only driving the
panel at 60Hz - I had originally planned on using an LH3000 like yours if I
could run it at 1920 x 1080 - I now have a feeling that it is the limited
refresh rate (50Hz) that is stopping me doing that.

I am still unclear as to how the quoted TV refresh rate relates to PC's as
I could not get the LH5000 (with it's 100Hz) refresh to run when driven at
anything over 60Hz - I tried 75Hz, 85Hz and 100Hz but all gave a 'signal
out of range' (can't remember exactly what the TV said) type error.

Anyhow, I have tried emailing LG but no reply yet. Yours was the type of
experience I was after but I was hoping to find someone who had used the
default (native) resolution and could report success. PC Worl did not seem
tohave a lot of time for me to discover whether it worked properly or not.

Regards,

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