From: Guenther Fischer on
In article <jwolf6589-F14380.04003715022010(a)nntp.charter.net>, John
<jwolf6589(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

> I have resisted using iPhoto for YEARS. I have had a digital camera
> since 2003 and when I got a Tiger based Mac in 05 did not use iPhoto.
> However with the new arrival of my new Mac (a refurbished August 2009
> model) I have had a opportunity to look at iPhoto 09 which looks more
> attractive than iPhoto for Tiger was. Okay since I am a idiot with
> iPhoto how can I import my Photos I have stored in my Digital Camera
> folder to iPhoto? Do I need to create 2 separate versions of the photos
> (double the disk space) or can iPhoto just use that folder?

It is up to you to keep your old folder or to let everything be
organized by iphoto. Usually, iphoto will import all your photos, if
you simply drag the photos folder on the icon in the dock. Iphoto will
store copies of your original photos in its own folder/library.

> Also will
> iPhoto play my movies? Using 4 digital cameras since 2003, I have movies
> in .MOV and .AVI format.

Just try it. Usually, iphoto imports and plays all movies from
supported cameras.

Look for a good book about your iLife version. That will help you
understanding the concepts of iphoto, imovie and iDVD.
From: Doug Anderson on
John <jwolf6589(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> writes:

> I have resisted using iPhoto for YEARS. I have had a digital camera
> since 2003 and when I got a Tiger based Mac in 05 did not use iPhoto.
> However with the new arrival of my new Mac (a refurbished August 2009
> model) I have had a opportunity to look at iPhoto 09 which looks more
> attractive than iPhoto for Tiger was. Okay since I am a idiot with
> iPhoto how can I import my Photos I have stored in my Digital Camera
> folder to iPhoto?

Yes.

> Do I need to create 2 separate versions of the photos
> (double the disk space) or can iPhoto just use that folder?

You don't need two separate versions. You can tell iPhoto to use the
photos stored in their original place, or you can ask iPhoto to copy
the photos to its preferred storage location (after which you could
delete the originals if you want to). Your choice.

> Also will
> iPhoto play my movies? Using 4 digital cameras since 2003, I have movies
> in .MOV and .AVI format.

Yes, it will - or that is, it will call Quicktime to do it. I don't
find it especially useful for movies, but I don't have very many of
them.

Although you can do surprisingly good quick editing on iPhoto, you
should think of it as an organizational tool, not a photo editing
tool. I think it is very good at organization, but that is because
I've decided to take advantage of the way iPhoto organizes things
rather than try to organize things my own way within iPhoto. iPhoto
offers organization by date (of course) by location taken, by faces in
the photograph, by "Event" (which I don't really use), by "Album"
(which you create), by "Smart Album" (you create the criteria and
iPhoto keeps it up-to-date), by user defined keywords, and other ways.

Once you have thousands of photos, being able to find the one you want
becomes important and somewhat difficult. iPhoto helps with this.

A lot of people are very frustrated by iPhoto. Those people tend to
be either

1) People who expect iPhoto to be photoshop (it isn't, and doesn't
claim to be).

2) People who have developed their personal way of organizing things
that doesn't fit well into what iPhoto does (or that they don't figure
out how to fit well into what iPhoto does).

If you are likely to be one of these, then you might want to skip
messing with iPhoto.

From: Steven Fisher on
In article <jwolf6589-F14380.04003715022010(a)nntp.charter.net>,
John <jwolf6589(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

> Okay since I am a idiot with iPhoto how can I import my Photos I have
> stored in my Digital Camera folder to iPhoto? Do I need to create 2
> separate versions of the photos (double the disk space) or can iPhoto
> just use that folder?

It sounds like you want to keep your photos out of iPhoto. Sure, you can
do that, but let me suggest that unless you enjoy micro-managing (and
some people do) it's the wrong approach.

Rather, you should do a backup of all your photos and then let iPhoto
make its own copies of them. Then delete the originals and just use
iPhoto. iPhoto is a much more competent photo manager than Finder.


Steve
From: Ned Mantei on
In article <qxljeua5fq.fsf(a)ethel.the.log>,
Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> A lot of people are very frustrated by iPhoto. Those people tend to
> be either
>
> 1) People who expect iPhoto to be photoshop (it isn't, and doesn't
> claim to be).
>
> 2) People who have developed their personal way of organizing things
> that doesn't fit well into what iPhoto does (or that they don't figure
> out how to fit well into what iPhoto does).

I use iPhoto (still with version '08 because I don't want face
recognition), but find one aspect frustrating:
Typically I have a series of pictures from some event (bike tour, hike,
whatever), which iPhoto imports as an event. There can be lots of
similar photos, differing from one another in exposure, focal length of
lens used, etc. After all, that's a main advantage of digital
photography: you can shoot dozens of variations on a theme at no extra
cost. I then choose those that seem most appealing, and put them in an
album. Now suppose a year later I want to show a friend just the photos
in this album, not bore him or her with the losers. The problem is that
iPhoto doesn't let you search on album names! Not nice if you have
hundreds of albums. The nearest I can come is to search for the event,
note the date, and then look for the album. Beyond this, often I can
only remember the title of a photo from within an album. I can find the
photo, but then there's no easy way to find the album containing that
photo.

I submitted this to Apple as a feature request years ago.

Ned in Zurich
From: Doug Anderson on
Ned Mantei <mantei(a)cell.biol.ethz.ch> writes:

> In article <qxljeua5fq.fsf(a)ethel.the.log>,
> Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > A lot of people are very frustrated by iPhoto. Those people tend to
> > be either
> >
> > 1) People who expect iPhoto to be photoshop (it isn't, and doesn't
> > claim to be).
> >
> > 2) People who have developed their personal way of organizing things
> > that doesn't fit well into what iPhoto does (or that they don't figure
> > out how to fit well into what iPhoto does).
>
> I use iPhoto (still with version '08 because I don't want face
> recognition), but find one aspect frustrating:
> Typically I have a series of pictures from some event (bike tour, hike,
> whatever), which iPhoto imports as an event. There can be lots of
> similar photos, differing from one another in exposure, focal length of
> lens used, etc. After all, that's a main advantage of digital
> photography: you can shoot dozens of variations on a theme at no extra
> cost. I then choose those that seem most appealing, and put them in an
> album. Now suppose a year later I want to show a friend just the photos
> in this album, not bore him or her with the losers. The problem is that
> iPhoto doesn't let you search on album names! Not nice if you have
> hundreds of albums. The nearest I can come is to search for the event,
> note the date, and then look for the album. Beyond this, often I can
> only remember the title of a photo from within an album. I can find the
> photo, but then there's no easy way to find the album containing that
> photo.

That's interesting. I don't use albums so much, so I haven't run into
that. A stupid work-around would be to everytime you create an album
give every photo in the album the album name as a keyword. But I
agree that you should be able to search on album name.

Another thing you should be able to do is create a smart album using
something like "Album contains summer" as inclusion criteria. You
can't do that either.