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From: Sherlock on 22 Nov 2005 08:15 Ginny Xenocode Fox have not tried yet.. damn too busy. Work come out of ears! In the new year it is .NET 2.0 and VS 2005 and 12 month wind up. Still doing VO.. 6 hours a day and will take a while to stop and go the other way. The C# app which is worked over by XENOCODE for .NET.1. is working 24 x7 and working fine. Phil
From: Ginny Caughey on 22 Nov 2005 10:28 Good to hear, Phil. I see that Xenocode Fox will be available for public beta beginnng Dec. 7, so I'll probably test it then. -- Ginny "Sherlock" <sherlock(a)sherlock.com.au> wrote in message news:1132665334.151480.222390(a)g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Ginny > > Xenocode Fox have not tried yet.. damn too busy. Work come out of ears! > In the new year it is .NET 2.0 and VS 2005 and 12 month wind up. > Still doing VO.. 6 hours a day and will take a while to stop and go the > other way. > > The C# app which is worked over by XENOCODE for .NET.1. is working 24 > x7 and working fine. > > Phil >
From: Phil McGuinness on 22 Nov 2005 17:39 Ginny, What will be interesting is that if an alternate language is 100% managed code I assume... you can reverse engineer the MSIL to create the C# source code. So a lot of applications that write for .NET that do not go to at least some lengths to attempt to protect their code.. could basically be handing over the source to the market place. I once used Valkerie to reverse engineer a Clipper application to find a bug that the Clipper developer of a library would not fix. I decompiled the code and wrote to him re the bug in his design where the code was using an environment variable test. He was quite shocked that could point out a bug without the source code. I was easy to write a Clipper program, say Function Start() and call one function in the library and create an EXE.. then decompile the whole source which included the linked in library. Phil McGuinness - Sherlock Software -- "Ginny Caughey" <ginny.caughey.online(a)wasteworks.com> wrote in message news:3ugrspF10ll1lU1(a)individual.net... > Good to hear, Phil. I see that Xenocode Fox will be available for public > beta beginnng Dec. 7, so I'll probably test it then. > > -- > Ginny
From: Ginny Caughey on 22 Nov 2005 18:19 Phil, > What will be interesting is that if an alternate language is 100% managed > code I assume... you can reverse engineer the MSIL to create the C# source > code. Yes I've done that already with one of the Vulcan samples and recompiled the resulting C# app. This may not always work, but it certainly worked for me. (Using Reflector.) So a lot of applications that write for .NET that do not go to at > least some lengths to attempt to protect their code.. could basically be > handing over the source to the market place. Maybe or maybe not. I'm not worried about it for my apps, but they don't sell into the mass market and aren't sold my download, etc. Microsoft isn't worried either and they don't obfuscate their libraries or their .NET apps that I've checked so far. But game developers, etc., might need to be more concerned. Ginny
From: Phil McGuinness on 22 Nov 2005 18:37
Ginny, snip[ Microsoft isn't worried either and they don't obfuscate their libraries or their .NET apps ] But are they going to write WORD / EXCEL etc in .NET ? I doubt they can afford to simply hand over their source code to the market. Phil McGuinness - Sherlock Software -- |