From: Archimedes' Lever on
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 12:52:09 -0700 (PDT), dlzc <dlzc1(a)cox.net> wrote:

>And the other's point about the OP meaning chip manufacturing vs. the
>chips from machining a block of material is well taken. The
>equivalent "hand grenade" explosion of converting a dust mote to
>energy, somehow avoiding destroying the chip circuitry and its various
>photo processes, will still be unworkable.
>
>David A. Smith



Are matter anti-matter annihilations being observed in uni labs on a
regular basis?

Common sense is the rule of the day.

A puff of wind provides all the action reaction energy we need to move
a dust particle through sea level atmosphere. Why burn more than needed?
From: Benj on
On Jun 18, 11:17 am, FatBytestard
<FatBytest...(a)somewheronyourharddrive.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 07:32:36 -0700 (PDT), Benj <bjac...(a)iwaynet.net>
> wrote:

> >Lessee. Obviously you are an "idea man" rather than someone who works
> >out the mundane details!  I don't know. maybe a giant laser or nuclear
> >reactor or perhaps an LHC would be the way to go to "smash" dust
> >particles in chip manufacture rather than the usual fans and filters.
> >I mean how much more could it cost?
>
>  Jeez, you are even more stupid than he is!

And obviously you are another "idea man" even more stooopid than I
am!

From: George Neuner on
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 13:07:40 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
<OneBigLever(a)InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

> Are matter anti-matter annihilations being observed in uni labs on a
>regular basis?

Yes ... and in (big) hospitals too. Google "PET scan".

George
From: EricP on
dlzc wrote:
> Dear EricP:
>
> On Jun 18, 7:57 am, EricP <ThatWouldBeTell...(a)thevillage.com> wrote:
>> dlzc wrote:
>>
>>> A megaton nuclear weapon "converts" a few
>>> nanograms of mass to energy (the rest is there
>>> just for chance).
>> 1 megaton TNT = 4.184e15 joules
>> E=MC^2 = 9.0e16 J/Kg
>>
>> 1 megaton = 46.49 grams.
>
> Thanks for the correction. Got a bad relation in my head. Maybe it
> is the ratio of explosive mass, to the amount that actually "goes
> missing".
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TNT_equivalent#Examples
> .... 2kg equates to 42.96 Mt, or 1 Mt = 21.48 gm (if Wikipedia is to be
> believed.)

Unfortunately that Wikipedia value of 17.975e16 J/kg is wrong.

In SI units, a joule = newton*meter = (kg*m/s^2)*m = kg*m^2/s^2 = kg*(m/s)^2

E = MC^2 ~= 1.0 kg *(3e8 m/s)^2 = 9e16 J

Eric



From: Archimedes' Lever on
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 17:20:51 -0400, George Neuner <gneuner2(a)comcast.net>
wrote:

>On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 13:07:40 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
><OneBigLever(a)InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:
>
>> Are matter anti-matter annihilations being observed in uni labs on a
>>regular basis?
>
>Yes ... and in (big) hospitals too. Google "PET scan".
>
>George

Ah... molecular level stuff. Only about one ten millionth of what one
would need to take care of a dust particle.

Still quite implausible.