From: Peter Ashby on
Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Mainly, it's in robustness. Analogue takes a hell of a lot of mechanical
> and electronic care to reproduce properly. For instance the engineering
> nightmare of gramophone pickups is the kind of thing you'd only get into
> if there was no alternative. And the entire chain is only as good as its
> crappiest component.

Well, haven't tried them but isn't there a company that makes LP decks
that use lasers instead of a pickup to read them? I know you then need a
pile of digital tech to read the results which defeats the point, but
theoretically at least you could do that entirely via analogue.
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From: T i m on
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 12:50:08 +0000, pashby(a)blueyonder.co.ruk (Peter
Ashby) wrote:

>Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Mainly, it's in robustness. Analogue takes a hell of a lot of mechanical
>> and electronic care to reproduce properly. For instance the engineering
>> nightmare of gramophone pickups is the kind of thing you'd only get into
>> if there was no alternative. And the entire chain is only as good as its
>> crappiest component.
>
>Well, haven't tried them but isn't there a company that makes LP decks
>that use lasers instead of a pickup to read them?

Here's one and there are a couple of sample tracks at the bottom.

http://www.elpj.com/about/sound.html

> I know you then need a
>pile of digital tech to read the results which defeats the point, but
>theoretically at least you could do that entirely via analogue.

Ignoring the clicks and pops, do we want to hear bench perfect music
though or isn't it that we like it right *for us*? The same logic as
badly (over colour saturated) TV's or over bassy HiFis?

If not then I'm not sure what valve amps are all about (these days ...
and assuming they work in the same way as valve guitar amps (producing
a certain amount of distortion//////////richness)).

I guess the music the kids play in their cars is supposed to be that
bassy (that's how it would have sounded live ... if it was ever played
live as such, not simply the output of a machine). ;-)

Cheers, T i m

p.s. A mate spend a whole load on a Surround Sound setup in the early
days. I bought a cheapo rig (mostly from Richer Sounds). He was p'd
when he heard my setup because he felt it was 'better than his'. I
doubt it was technically / on the scope etc. However, sometimes you
can just get lucky. ;-)
From: Conor on
On 14/03/2010 06:58, Larry Stoter wrote:
> I guess I am one of the last people in the universe not to have
> converted my vinyl LPs to digital, although I understand vinyl is trendy
> again ........
>
> The Mac is rather a long way from the Hi-Fi, so I was hoping to do it by
> wifi.
>
> I have a Griffin iMic, essentially a compact sound card with analogue in
> and out sockets and a USB connection.
>
> Anybody know if this will work, connected to an Airport Express base
> station, to digitise and wirelessly transfer music from the Hi-Fi to the
> Mac?
>
> I looks as though this should all work but I'd like to hear from anybody
> who has actually done it .....
>
You can buy record decks with a USB output specifically for doing this.
At the last trade auction I went to, they were struggling to make �10.
Expect to find some for next to nothing on Ebay.

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From: Peter Ceresole on
T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:

> Is it just me or are nearly all fast panned video shots juddery?

I have a Panasonic TV, with a Freeview aerial feed, and I don't see any
of that at all. On the contrary, I think the flat panel image quality is
considerably superior to any CRT I have see, except possibly for the
video monitors we used at the BBC.

> p.s. Daughter recently commented on how slow her digital camera was
> between shots.

As you expect, it depends a great deal on which camera. I used to use a
Kodak DC290, which I bought maybe 11 years ago. Splendid low noise CCD,
but took ages between shots- or to start up. I got some lovely pictures
with it, especially in low light, but the delays drove me nuts.

I now have a Lumix DMC FZ7, about 4 years old. The CCD is noisier and
you can see that in low light, but picture quality is pretty good.
Delays are infinitely shorter, and although it wouldn't have been worth
the upgrade for the picture quality, the general handling and speed of
response make it much nicer to use. I think it's probably down to having
a much faster processor. I read that the newer versions have improved
CCDs and I'd like one, but not enough to pay the price...

But everything is a compromise. I mean I'd love a Hasselblad, but at 2
grand... Never.
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Peter
From: SteveH on
Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote:

> > I looks as though this should all work but I'd like to hear from anybody
> > who has actually done it .....
> >
> You can buy record decks with a USB output specifically for doing this.
> At the last trade auction I went to, they were struggling to make �10.
> Expect to find some for next to nothing on Ebay.

But those decks are utter trash, as you'd expect from a cheapie deck.

If you already have a decent turntable, it's best to invest in a decent
pre-amp with USB output, IMHO. Costs a fair bit more, but quality
usually does.
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SteveH