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From: BURT on 19 Mar 2010 20:33
On Mar 19, 4:58 pm, Marvin the Martian <mar...(a)ontomars.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:03:47 -0700, Raymond Yohros wrote:
> > On Mar 19, 11:43 am, Marvin the Martian <mar...(a)ontomars.org> wrote:
> >> Potential? Not really. Like I said, SR existed before Einstein in the
> >> form of the Lorentz transformation; it was all there from time dilation
> >> to length contraction. Einstein's part was trivial; he gave an example
> >> of how it applies.
>
> > gps and atom clocks are just the begining. einsteins work its build for
> > the future
>
> Atomic clocks have nothing to do with relativity. GPS accounts for the
> time difference in a gravity well; something theories other than GR, like
> Sciama's, does just as well.
>
> >> However, engineering is almost pure
> >> Newtonian. Newtonian mechanics have a MAJOR impact.
>
> > dont forget leonardo davinci
> > he was the greatest engineer of all times
>
> Without calculus, da Vinci could only guess. But that is not really
> relevant.

How many gravity wells are there in a multibody gravity problem?

Mitch Raemsch
From: Henry Wilson DSc on 20 Mar 2010 15:54
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:33:36 -0700 (PDT), BURT <macromitch(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Mar 19, 4:58�pm, Marvin the Martian <mar...(a)ontomars.org> wrote:
>> On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:03:47 -0700, Raymond Yohros wrote:
>> > On Mar 19, 11:43�am, Marvin the Martian <mar...(a)ontomars.org> wrote:
>> >> Potential? Not really. Like I said, SR existed before Einstein in the
>> >> form of the Lorentz transformation; it was all there from time dilation
>> >> to length contraction. Einstein's part was trivial; he gave an example
>> >> of how it applies.
>>
>> > gps and atom clocks are just the begining. einsteins work its build for
>> > the future
>>
>> Atomic clocks have nothing to do with relativity. GPS accounts for the
>> time difference in a gravity well; something theories other than GR, like
>> Sciama's, does just as well.
>>
>> >> However, engineering is almost pure
>> >> Newtonian. Newtonian mechanics have a MAJOR impact.
>>
>> > dont forget leonardo davinci
>> > he was the greatest engineer of all times
>>
>> Without calculus, da Vinci could only guess. But that is not really
>> relevant.
>
>How many gravity wells are there in a multibody gravity problem?
>
>Mitch Raemsch


Henry Wilson...

........provider of free physics lessons
From: GO-HERE .NL on 20 Mar 2010 22:11
On Mar 1, 11:42 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...(a)Hogwarts.physics_u> wrote:
> "HardySpicer" <gyansor...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:a501d64d-069f-41ff-a591-ac54dd02242b(a)p3g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 2, 5:46 am, James Dow Allen <jdallen2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > My website has a wide variety of pages, including one where I say
> > flattering
> > things about Einstein, implying he and Newton are the two greatest
> > physicists
> > ever. I'm not a physicist, and not qualified to judge, but the claim
> > agrees
> > with almost all the facts and opinions I've ever read.
>
> > Lately two readers have sent me e-mail implying that I've been deluded
> > into thinking Einstein was really so great!
> > Here's just an example of several claims I've received:
>
> > > There is no question that Hilbert presented the General Theory of
> > > Relativity before Einstein did.
> > > Einstein rushed his General Relativity paper into publication in a
> > > panic when he saw that Hilbert had already presented his own Theory.
>
> > My question for the ng is: Is there any valid basis whatsoever to
> > such
> > arguments of plagiarism or against Einstein's "greatness"?
> > I e-mailed one correspondent that such talk may have originated with
> > anti-Semitic Nazi propaganda, which naturally infuriated him!
>
> > Sorry if this post fans flames in this ng, but I do hope the ng gives
> > me a clear sense of the answer.
>
> > James Dow Allen
>
> You missed James Clark Maxwell. He was as great as the other two.
>
> Hardy
>
> ==================================================
> You missed Percival Lowell. He was greater than the other two, he
> actually saw canals on Mars whereas Maxwell and Einstein only
> hallucinated their crackpottery. That's much better greatness than
> hearing voices.

how dare you say things like that, you are not even Jewish.

You Nazi!

:-)
From: Marvin the Martian on 21 Mar 2010 10:38

I think the message of this thread is not so much that Einstein was a
poser and a putz, which he was... it is that so many physicist are so
mindlessly accepting and repeating what they told that they just ACCEPT
that Einstein was a physics god without even stopping to think about what
Einstein actually did.

You have to wonder about scientist who are so unquestioning and willing
to be blinded by hero worship.

From: Inertial on 21 Mar 2010 18:53
"Marvin the Martian" <marvin(a)ontomars.org> wrote in message
news:N6ednY0sc9PEsjvWnZ2dnUVZ_hignZ2d(a)giganews.com...
>
> I think the message of this thread is not so much that Einstein was a
> poser and a putz, which he was... it is that so many physicist are so
> mindlessly accepting and repeating what they told that they just ACCEPT
> that Einstein was a physics god without even stopping to think about what
> Einstein actually did.

Nope

> You have to wonder about scientist who are so unquestioning and willing
> to be blinded by hero worship.

They aren't


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