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From: Adrian C on 16 Jan 2010 09:53
On 16/01/2010 10:04, SteveH wrote:
> I have a friend who is launching a UK web-shopping site in conjunction
> with his Irish business partners.
>
> He's no web-design expert - but the site looks fine in Windows, but is
> all laid out horizontally, about 5 screens wide on the Mac, under any
> browser.

Looks OK on my iPod Touch but ...

1. The page needs limiting to a maximun design width, or if space is
going to be available on large width high resolution computer screens
(like common on Macs, but not yet most PCs) then some sneaky way of
using that space might play OK with adverts or more links.

2. Web cloaking of URL's using framesets is a bad idea, better to use
redirects

3. The TABLE structure seems to have been a home grown addition to place
three clumped rows of header, content and footer - while still using the
previously coded CSS DIV based site mechanics.

This really needs reengineering into three DIVs, and a tabbing structure
added can also be done in CSS which will sensibly reflow on limited
width devices like mobile phones.

http://tutorials.mezane.org/tabbed-navigation-using-css/

A very good designers website here.

http://www.alistapart.com/topics/design/layout/

As it's a business just starting up, I'd run with this a while - and
maybe start investigating redevelopment options.

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Adrian C
From: SteveH on 16 Jan 2010 11:09
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:

> On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 10:04:27 +0000, italiancar(a)gmail.com (SteveH)
> wrote:
>
> >I have a friend who is launching a UK web-shopping site in conjunction
> >with his Irish business partners.
> >
> >He's no web-design expert - but the site looks fine in Windows, but is
> >all laid out horizontally, about 5 screens wide on the Mac, under any
> >browser.
>
> Firefox 3.5/Mac shows it fine here. Safari does widevision.

Interesting, thanks.

Google Chrome and Safari do the widescreen version...

Thanks for all the input so far - I'll get back to my friend with your
suggestions.


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SteveH
From: Ben Shimmin on 16 Jan 2010 12:25
SteveH <italiancar(a)gmail.com>:
> Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:

[...]

>> Firefox 3.5/Mac shows it fine here. Safari does widevision.
>
> Interesting, thanks.
>
> Google Chrome and Safari do the widescreen version...

In general, Safari and Chrome will behave similarly on most sites,
because they have the same layout engine: WebKit. Firefox and Opera
both have their own layout engines, called Gecko and Presto respectively,
and will, consequently, render pages differently. Internet Explorer also
has its own layout engine (Trident).

b.

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From: Peter Ceresole on 16 Jan 2010 13:00
D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote:

> > www.tidi.biz
>
> Good grief. What on earth is responsible for creating that?

Hmmmmm. You know I know nothing about HTML, but I opened it in Firefox
3.5.7 / OS10.4.11, and clicking in either the tabs on the top of the
first page, or the categories on the upper left, it goes to the right
place each time, and the category fits onto one scrollable page.

In practical terms, I've seen a lot worse.
--
Peter
From: Peter Ceresole on 16 Jan 2010 13:06
Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In practical terms, I've seen a lot worse.

Although, also in practical terms, even with a reasonably quick ADSL2+
connection, it does take forever to load...
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Peter
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