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From: Ardcorr on 3 Feb 2010 03:50 Hi People I've had a very strange problem that is driving me crazy. It has claimed the lives of two innocent hard drives already. It's an intermittent problem but my motherboard, an asus P5Q (SE I think?) doesn't go into BIOS and consequently my daw don't boot. When I say, not going into BIOS, I mean it doesn't even beep. It just sits there and the red power (?) light on the front of my case is on constant which is wrong. If I disconnect the power completely and leave it for a good while it will work, but only if I totally disconnect the power. I've not yet run enough tests on it to say how long I have to leave it for as on both occasions I left it over night. I will give the rest of my specs if required but I don't think it's effected by any other component. I have disconnected everything, hard drives, DVD drive, graphics card and it still has the same problem. Has anyone encountered this before and if so did they resolve it or buy a new board? Could it be something to do with the battery on the board? I have no idea and even more worrying neither does the guy at gear4music "formally RedSub" (who built it my daw) He thinks I need a new board but I'm hoping he's wrong. As for the hard drives, on two occasions when it refused to go into BIOS I shut it off using the switch at the back and not holding the on/off button at the front. When I did finally get it to go through the BIOS stage it gave me a, "cannot read disk" error and when I ran a diagnostic scan on the disks they were both damaged. Luckily they were still under warrantee and all the data was backed up. Thanks in advance Steve
From: Sue Morton on 3 Feb 2010 09:34 Hi Steve, Even with hands-on access to the system it can be a bit of a puzzle. Some things that come to mind: 1. Do you know that the disks actually sustained damage? The reason I ask, the type of disk corruption I'm used to dealing with, is to the OS level formatting of the disk. The disk itself is unchanged (no new bad sectors at low-level, no damaged MBR track area etc.). IOW, just a windows-level reformat is all that's needed to put the disk back in service, there's nothing wrong with the disk itself. 2. Have you tested your power supply for correct voltages etc. 3. Have you tried cleaning the board and cards and reseating everything? I'd use a strong vacuum first to remove as much dust etc. as possible, then use compressed air to blow out the rest 4. Have you visually inspected the board for anomalies -- bulging capacitors for example? 5. Do you have a temperature sensing program to tell you if the system is overheating? Try this free program: http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php and see what your temps are -- Sue Morton "Ardcorr" <purtington(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message news:7ssrm9FadeU1(a)mid.individual.net... > Hi People > I've had a very strange problem that is driving me crazy. > It has claimed the lives of two innocent hard drives already. > > It's an intermittent problem but my motherboard, an asus P5Q (SE I think?) > doesn't go into BIOS and consequently my daw don't boot. > When I say, not going into BIOS, I mean it doesn't even beep. > It just sits there and the red power (?) light on the front of my case is > on constant which > is wrong. > If I disconnect the power completely and leave it for a good while it will > work, but only if I totally disconnect the power. I've not yet run enough > tests > on it to say how long I have to leave it for as on both occasions I left > it over night. > I will give the rest of my specs if required but I don't think it's > effected by any other > component. I have disconnected everything, hard drives, DVD drive, > graphics card and > it still has the same problem. > Has anyone encountered this before and if so did they resolve it or buy a > new board? > Could it be something to do with the battery on the board? I have no idea > and even more > worrying neither does the guy at gear4music "formally RedSub" (who built > it my daw) > He thinks I need a new board but I'm hoping he's wrong. > > As for the hard drives, on two occasions when it refused to go into BIOS I > shut it off using the switch > at the back and not holding the on/off button at the front. When I did > finally get it to go through > the BIOS stage it gave me a, "cannot read disk" error and when I ran a > diagnostic scan on the disks > they were both damaged. Luckily they were still under warrantee and all > the data was backed up. > > Thanks in advance > Steve > >
From: polymod on 3 Feb 2010 10:03 "Glennbo" <vdrumsYourHeadFromYourAss(a)cox.net> wrote in message news:Xns9D1459D85AF51BrownShoesDontMakeIt(a)188.40.43.213... > The killer robot "Ardcorr" <purtington(a)googlemail.com> grabbed the > controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... > > > It's an intermittent problem but my motherboard, an asus P5Q (SE I > > think?) doesn't go into BIOS and consequently my daw don't boot. > > Sometimes some solder point on the back of the mobo can make contact with > the case and produce the effect you describe. That happened to me a couple of years back and sounds like the same sypmtoms. Poly
From: polymod on 3 Feb 2010 12:01 "Glennbo" <vdrumsYourHeadFromYourAss(a)cox.net> wrote in message news:Xns9D146259BFCECBrownShoesDontMakeIt(a)188.40.43.213... > The killer robot "polymod" <polymod(a)optonline.net> grabbed the controls > of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... > > >> > It's an intermittent problem but my motherboard, an asus P5Q (SE I > >> > think?) doesn't go into BIOS and consequently my daw don't boot. > >> > >> Sometimes some solder point on the back of the mobo can make contact > >> with the case and produce the effect you describe. > > > > That happened to me a couple of years back and sounds like the same > > sypmtoms. > > I've had mobos and power supplies sitting on the coffee table running > before to verify they work when not mounted in the case. I've also put > stuff under the mobo in the case before. Does your wife know? ;) Poly
From: polymod on 3 Feb 2010 16:45
"Glennbo" <vdrumsYourHeadFromYourAss(a)cox.net> wrote in message news:Xns9D149CE6BB98ABrownShoesDontMakeIt(a)188.40.43.213... > The killer robot "polymod" <polymod(a)optonline.net> grabbed the controls of > the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... > > >> I've had mobos and power supplies sitting on the coffee table running > >> before to verify they work when not mounted in the case. I've also put > >> stuff under the mobo in the case before. > > > > Does your wife know? > > No! And don't tell her!!! <G> Tell her what? (Eddie Haskel smiley) Poly |