From: mayayana on
> > They'll try to kill XP at the earliest possible opportunity.
>
> I think it would've been dead by now, if it weren't for the rise of
> netbooks and the debacle that was Vista.
>
Yes. There's a perverse satisfaction in seeing
how they shot themselves in the foot while trying
to force more people to buy more PCs.

> > Yesterday I saw an article detailing how people using
> > Office 2003 might have a hard time with the hardware
> > requirements for Office 2010. (Hardware requirements
> > for an office suite!)
>
> I'd be curious to see that, if you can dredge it back up.
>

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/25/office_2010_2007_2003_upgrades/

There's a link there to the official MS page. The requirements
for CPU and RAM are not extreme -- same as for 2007, but
that's about double the requirements for 2003. And the
disk space requirement is increased:

"most standalone application disk-space requirements
have gone up by 0.5 GB"

So Word needs *an additional* 500 MB more space
than it used to need. I guess it must be 1-2 GB already.
I can't even conceive of what they might be installing
with such bloat. I'm running Win98 with 1.6 GB used.
That includes OpenOffice, Visual Studio 6, MSDN, a
couple dozen smaller programs, Paint Shop Pro, several
browsers, and a couple of SDKs (SAPI and AA.) Yet
Microsoft needs more space for Word alone.

But it could be worse, I guess. We could be Apple
Seeds. Today I saw the quote of the year: Steve Jobs,
describing web browsing with the new iPad, said "Seeing
the whole page at once is phenomenal". He was comparing
the iPad to a cellphone, as though nobody had ever seen
the Web before on a computer with a screen bigger than
half of a grilled cheese sandwich. :)



From: Karl E. Peterson on
After serious thinking mayayana wrote :
> But it could be worse, I guess. We could be Apple
> Seeds. Today I saw the quote of the year: Steve Jobs,
> describing web browsing with the new iPad, said "Seeing
> the whole page at once is phenomenal". He was comparing
> the iPad to a cellphone, as though nobody had ever seen
> the Web before on a computer with a screen bigger than
> half of a grilled cheese sandwich. :)

LOL! That's pretty precious, alright...

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From: MM on
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:15:29 -0800, Karl E. Peterson <karl(a)exmvps.org>
wrote:

>Office, afterall,
>achieved "Good Enough" eight or ten years ago.

Huh, I'm still using Word 97. When I'm not using OpenOffice.

MM
From: MM on
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:15:29 -0800, Karl E. Peterson <karl(a)exmvps.org>
wrote:

>The big difference is, cars *do* wear out.

Nope. Even that statement is not necessarily true. Cars can be
repaired. Most *every*thing can be repaired if it was designed right
in the first place. Notwithstanding rust, which would be caused by bad
garaging procedures, everything in a car can be repaired or, if
capitalist "planned obsolescence" has used funny-headed screws,
replaced as a module. Don't forget I was a fitter once and I know.

MM
From: Phill W. on
On 27/01/2010 20:15, Karl E. Peterson wrote:

> I can almost understand that. Killing products to promote a new one is
> about the only viable business strategy they have. Office, after all,
> achieved "Good Enough" eight or ten years ago.
>
> But killing *data* - whoa! - that's a whole 'nother story!!! Can you
> even *imagine* if they rendered DOC or XLS files unusable??? They're
> outta business, that day.

But Karl; it's *already happened*

A /Service Pack/ to Office 2003 locked us all out of our Word 2.* files
and a whole host of other types just because they were "insecure".

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9055138/Office_2003_SP3_blocks_old_file_formats
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938810/en-us

It wasn't just that you couldn't /save/ these formats any more, which
would have been palatable; you simply you couldn't /open/ them! Whole
swathes of corporate assets wiped out at a stroke. Anyone else would
have slammed with Damages charges; not so Our Friends in Redmond.

Regards,
Phill W.
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