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dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> I still *really don't understand* what would have been so hard in making
> it so Leopard could be easily installed on the 2009 Macbook.

Installing Leopard requires booting up from a Leopard DVD. No Leopard
DVDs in existence contain the necessary hardware drivers that will boot
up a brand new MacBook, because current MacBooks didn't exist when those
DVDs were pressed. It isn't worth Apple's time or money to develop and
release a new pressing of Leopard DVDs that will install on Macs that
shipped with Snow Leopard. Get a second hand Mac that is capable of
running Leopard if you really want Leopard.

--
K.

Lang may your lum reek.
From: dorayme on
In article <sdfisher-DA038B.18504401012010(a)mara100-84.onlink.net>,
Steven Fisher <sdfisher(a)spamcop.net> wrote:

> In article <doraymeRidThis-5F2E13.12570402012010(a)news.albasani.net>,
> dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> > I find it hard to accept or approve of any greedy commercial decisions
> > that would block even third parties from making some firmware or
> > whatever other software patches to enable a perfectly reasonable thing
> > for Apple customers to avoid, namely expensive software upgrades like
> > Photoshop. I happily shelled out a couple of grand, they should be nice
> > to those like me. I think the "entirely Apple's software development
> > policy which prevents Leopard from working easily on some of the latest
> > models." stinks unless there is *a huge cost* for them in extra work,
> > about which I have no knowledge.
>
> Sounds like your complaint is with Adobe, doesn't it?
>
>

Does it? Perhaps!

I have a version of PS and Illustrator and Fireworks for PCs, way old
and that have worked fine for years on PCs and through from 98 to
win2000 to XP and from Celerons to AMDs to Pentiums, I would not be
surprised if they did not work fine on win7.

Anything that that screaming pile of an OS can do and the machines they
run on should always be outclassed in every important respect by Macs! I
simply don't really know, but my vague impression is that the world is
getting more avaricious and that includes Apple.

Don't get me wrong, I am looking forward to this elegant Macbook. I have
the right to whinge a bit, the salesman said I could if I spent more
than a couple of grand! <g>

--
dorayme
From: dorayme on
In article <ptB%m.58234$Db2.35286(a)edtnps83>,
me(a)home.spamsucks.ca (Király) wrote:

> dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > I still *really don't understand* what would have been so hard in making
> > it so Leopard could be easily installed on the 2009 Macbook.
>
> Installing Leopard requires booting up from a Leopard DVD. No Leopard
> DVDs in existence contain the necessary hardware drivers that will boot
> up a brand new MacBook, because current MacBooks didn't exist when those
> DVDs were pressed. It isn't worth Apple's time or money to develop and
> release a new pressing of Leopard DVDs that will install on Macs that
> shipped with Snow Leopard.

It is as if you are saying there is no other way to deliver patches and
extras to assist a DVD install... Surely not?

> Get a second hand Mac that is capable of
> running Leopard if you really want Leopard.

Too late. It will force me into changing, I needed a bit of a kick! I
have been far too pleased with this trusty QS I still use and run my
business on. Luvly machine it is. Might buy a spare on eBay... <g>

--
dorayme
From: Eric on
In article <doraymeRidThis-9F38EE.10414802012010(a)news.albasani.net>,
dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> My new Macbook is on its way. It was not easily possible to get an
> earlier MacBook - which I have had advice here would be easier to load
> up with earlier versions of Leopard. So I am exploring possibilities of
> working with upgrades to software. Frankly, I would be happy to keep
> using my present software and ditching Snow for a while. I asked the Mac
> Shop commercial experts if I could load up early Leopard and they said
> they could not see why not. My idea was to copy what comes on the
> machine to an external drive and store it till I am good and ready to
> use Snow. And to install Leopard, either via the disks or as a restore
> odf some kind from an external volume where it is a going concern.

Why not just make an external drive bootable, and attempt to run Leopard
from that? Then when everything goes wrong, you can revert to using Snow
Leopard without needing to reinstall.
From: Eric on
In article <doraymeRidThis-54ECC7.11373802012010(a)news.albasani.net>,
dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> I still *really don't understand* what would have been so hard in making
> it so Leopard could be easily installed on the 2009 Macbook. It is not
> exactly ancient history! It is all controlled by one company. Beats me!
> Is it sheer crookery? Is it a commercial thing? Is it a very very very
> hard technical hurdle. It's a Mac, it is Intel, it uses SATA drives, it
> is not something made by an advanced civilization with a very foreign ET
> language... <g>

Apple appear to have some future commercial reason to attempt to push
everyone towards Snow Leopard. Seems to explain making it harder to run
earlier versions on new hardware. Also the far lower price.