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From: dorayme on 1 Jan 2010 00:22
Does anyone know what the earliest mac versions of

Photoshop,
Illustrator,
Indesign,
Macromedia Flash
Macromedia Fireworks
Adobe Acrobat Pro

work, straight off with no hard problems to fix

on latest Macbook running Snow Leapard?

If no one knows this for sure, what versions of any of these have proved
to work on your machines.

Please.

--
dorayme
From: Mr. Strat on 1 Jan 2010 16:17
In article <doraymeRidThis-848B70.16224901012010(a)news.albasani.net>,
dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> Does anyone know what the earliest mac versions of
>
> Photoshop,
> Illustrator,
> Indesign,
> Macromedia Flash
> Macromedia Fireworks
> Adobe Acrobat Pro
>
> work, straight off with no hard problems to fix
>
> on latest Macbook running Snow Leapard?

I have and am using CS3 with Snow Leopard. I don't think Adobe
recommends anything earlier.
From: dorayme on 1 Jan 2010 18:41
In article <010120101317290423%rag(a)nospam.techline.com>,
"Mr. Strat" <rag(a)nospam.techline.com> wrote:

> In article <doraymeRidThis-848B70.16224901012010(a)news.albasani.net>,
> dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know what the earliest mac versions of
> >
> > Photoshop,
> > Illustrator,
> > Indesign,
> > Macromedia Flash
> > Macromedia Fireworks
> > Adobe Acrobat Pro
> >
> > work, straight off with no hard problems to fix
> >
> > on latest Macbook running Snow Leapard?
>
> I have and am using CS3 with Snow Leopard. I don't think Adobe
> recommends anything earlier.

OK, thanks.

My new Macbook is on its way. It was not easily possible to get an
earlier MacBook - which I have had advice here would be easier to load
up with earlier versions of Leopard. So I am exploring possibilities of
working with upgrades to software. Frankly, I would be happy to keep
using my present software and ditching Snow for a while. I asked the Mac
Shop commercial experts if I could load up early Leopard and they said
they could not see why not. My idea was to copy what comes on the
machine to an external drive and store it till I am good and ready to
use Snow. And to install Leopard, either via the disks or as a restore
odf some kind from an external volume where it is a going concern.

--
dorayme
From: David Empson on 1 Jan 2010 19:05
dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> In article <010120101317290423%rag(a)nospam.techline.com>,
> "Mr. Strat" <rag(a)nospam.techline.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <doraymeRidThis-848B70.16224901012010(a)news.albasani.net>,
> > dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > > Does anyone know what the earliest mac versions of [Adobe Creative
> > > Suite apps] work, straight off with no hard problems to fix on
> > > latest Macbook running Snow Leapard?
> >
> > I have and am using CS3 with Snow Leopard. I don't think Adobe
> > recommends anything earlier.
>
> OK, thanks.
>
> My new Macbook is on its way. It was not easily possible to get an
> earlier MacBook - which I have had advice here would be easier to load
> up with earlier versions of Leopard. So I am exploring possibilities of
> working with upgrades to software. Frankly, I would be happy to keep
> using my present software and ditching Snow for a while. I asked the Mac
> Shop commercial experts if I could load up early Leopard and they said
> they could not see why not.

I can. The latest MacBook (polycarbonate unibody, late 2009 model) has a
higher model ID than the last model which was supplied with Leopard, so
there is a high probablity that no version of Leopard has the necessary
kernel and/or driver support for the current MacBook.

The current MacBook doesn't even work with retail Snow Leopard (10.6.0)
- the copy of 10.6.1 supplied with the computer is required (or any Snow
Leopard updated to 10.6.2 or later).

The same situation applies with the current iMac models (21.5" and 27")
- they can't easily be made to run Leopard because they are new hardware
models that were never supplied with Leopard.

If it is a MacBook Pro (any model), you are fine, because they were
introduced in June 2009 and are supported by 10.5.8. (Same goes for the
current Mac Mini.)

> My idea was to copy what comes on the machine to an external drive and
> store it till I am good and ready to use Snow.

Not necessary. You can use the DVDs supplied with the computer to
reinstall what was included on the hard drive.

> And to install Leopard, either via the disks or as a restore odf some kind
> from an external volume where it is a going concern.

--
David Empson
dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz
From: dorayme on 1 Jan 2010 19:37
In article <1jbozef.187q6lhln6ulvN%dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz>,
dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote:

> dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> > In article <010120101317290423%rag(a)nospam.techline.com>,
> > "Mr. Strat" <rag(a)nospam.techline.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <doraymeRidThis-848B70.16224901012010(a)news.albasani.net>,
> > > dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Does anyone know what the earliest mac versions of [Adobe Creative
> > > > Suite apps] work, straight off with no hard problems to fix on
> > > > latest Macbook running Snow Leapard?
> > >
> > > I have and am using CS3 with Snow Leopard. I don't think Adobe
> > > recommends anything earlier.
> >
> > OK, thanks.
> >
> > My new Macbook is on its way. It was not easily possible to get an
> > earlier MacBook - which I have had advice here would be easier to load
> > up with earlier versions of Leopard. So I am exploring possibilities of
> > working with upgrades to software. Frankly, I would be happy to keep
> > using my present software and ditching Snow for a while. I asked the Mac
> > Shop commercial experts if I could load up early Leopard and they said
> > they could not see why not.
>
> I can. The latest MacBook (polycarbonate unibody, late 2009 model) has a
> higher model ID than the last model which was supplied with Leopard, so
> there is a high probablity that no version of Leopard has the necessary
> kernel and/or driver support for the current MacBook.
>
> The current MacBook doesn't even work with retail Snow Leopard (10.6.0)
> - the copy of 10.6.1 supplied with the computer is required (or any Snow
> Leopard updated to 10.6.2 or later).
>


I feared as much - yes it is a Macbook, I like the white and I hate the
black of the pros) but since you were not in Sydney with me in the
store, all I could do is ask with a suspicious face, rub my chin in a
certain skeptical way... and decide that even if they are wrong (which
it looks like) I will go ahead. For quite some time I can prepare
graphic elements on my older machines and there will be a lot I will be
able to do on the new... Nice looking toys, I like the idea of the built
in wifi.

I still *really don't understand* what would have been so hard in making
it so Leopard could be easily installed on the 2009 Macbook. It is not
exactly ancient history! It is all controlled by one company. Beats me!
Is it sheer crookery? Is it a commercial thing? Is it a very very very
hard technical hurdle. It's a Mac, it is Intel, it uses SATA drives, it
is not something made by an advanced civilization with a very foreign ET
language... <g>

> > My idea was to copy what comes on the machine to an external drive and
> > store it till I am good and ready to use Snow.
>
> Not necessary. You can use the DVDs supplied with the computer to
> reinstall what was included on the hard drive.
>

Yes OK, it was merely an easy thing to do, I thought, rather than fillin
forms and make decisions and find DVDs in my piles (hard disks I rarely
lose <g>)

> > And to install Leopard, either via the disks or as a restore odf some kind
> > from an external volume where it is a going concern.

--
dorayme
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