Prev: NP+complete-problem navigation, search In computational complexity theory, the complexity class NP-complete (abbreviated NP-C or NPC), is a class of problems having two properties: * It is in the set of NP (nondeterministic polynomial time) pr
Next: Continuity and Uncountability
From: Vladimir Kirov on 31 Jul 2010 10:29

Tim Golden BandTech.com:

> What about isotropic behavior Vladimir?


Don't can understand Your offer, Tim. You expect that conked some
program?
From: Day Brown on 31 Jul 2010 16:57
On 07/31/2010 08:10 AM, Tim Golden BandTech.com wrote:
> Good enough Day. I think you have a sharp mind, but accept that you're
> not up to the math side of things. I believe that a grade school child
> will take to polysign better than an educated adult, for we have had
> the two-sigend real number drilled into our heads as fundamental ad
> nauseum.
>
> I always enjoy reading your anthropological posts and appreciate your
> focus on the human condition, though I am about as versed in those
> endeavors as you are in math. Whatever; sometimes fresh minds
> contribute more than those versed in the lore, for they start with a
> cleaner slate. So I don't mind entertaining any mathematical ideas you
> might have, though I might bend them into a context that I find
> useful. This is how we should all make our attempts and this is a
> great medium for that endeavor.
>
> Thanks, as usual, for contributing what you have. I agree that
> navigational abilities may be one form of genetically coded spatial
> analysis, but also that this tends to be a surface map, consistent
> with the 2D projection of a 3D space, rather than a pure 3D form. We
> do not typically look into a mountain and see the peak of another
> lower mountain beyond, whether with our eyes or with our mind, so we
> should perhaps surrender our claim of 3D visualization, just as most
> give up on 4D visualization. I admit we do at least have some partial
> 3D ability, but that it is incomplete.
I see whatcha mean about a 2 dimensional map; but there is another
dimension: time. Food sources are seasonally available. This really paid
off as agriculture began, but also seen in ballistics and the
trajectories- both of the arc of weapons but also the movement of prey
in habitual routes- which in Chad were also often new.

I remember reading of primitive cultures with a very poorly developed
sense of time. But also Adams, "Tocharian Historic Phonology and
Morphology" whose sense of time was so well developed they have lotsa
verb tenses English lacks. Since they founded the Silk Road, I can see
how they needed contracts that spelled out not only which route, but
when shipments would arrive, dealing with scheduling routes which
changed, just as in the closed drainage basin, but not only with flash
floods, but war, revolution, banditry, etc, requiring constant
adjustment of routes to maximize profits.

Incidentally, we see Tocharian merchants down at the bottom of
http://daybrown.org/artifax/artifax.htm who look like Ashkenazic Jews
but are Buddhist, wearing Chinese silk. I expect we'll see English
translations of Tocharian documents by Chinese scholars that weigh in on
the nature of space and time.

If there's a past I'd like to visit, it'd be 7th century Kucha, the
preeminent Tocharian city, a few hundred miles NW of the Jade Gate and
the hegemony of China. When the Tang Tiazong sent Xuan Zang to retrieve
original Buddhist documents, Zang started at Kucha, which'd long been
involved in translating Occidental texts into Chinese, and Chinese works
into several Western languages.

And since they were involved in commerce, they were integrating Chinese
and Occidental math. I forget the source, but recall they also had a
number system that didnt have a base. It was built entirely out of
combinations of prime numbers. (IF you multiply primes- is it possible
for the result to have a factor that is not one of the initial primes?)

I would not be surprised if they dont stumble across a Kuchan Symposium
with people comparing and contrasting Occidental & Oriental cosmology &
mathematics. I'd love to see the TV series...
From: spudnik on 1 Aug 2010 00:32
you sure, it isn't synesthesia?

> Why was there the sudden flowering of art, music, and film following the
> introduction of psychedelics in the sixties? Why do these now old
> musicians playing psychedelic rock still have groupies?

thus:
the photon is some kind of oddball Copenhagenskooler reification
-- is that a Bohmian word? -- of Newton's corpuscle, courtesy
of Einstein's cutesy coinage per the photo-electrical effect, thanks
to the Nobel cmte. decision, although it is not a neccesary impediment
to using Schroedinger's *wave* equation, for light (iff
it can be used for that; I don't actually know .-)

we might owe the quantumization of light to Planck, but
we do not owe the rock o'light to Einstein, or de Broglie, or Dirac;
pioneers don't have to be perfect!

> I've just watched one of the Feynman bongo-drum & throat-singing
> NZ lectures, in which he describes the probability amplitude of the
> photon as rotating....

thus: one example of pedagogy is enough; thank *you*. well,
Bucky liked to use "Universe," since there is only one by definition,
duh ... unless you're in the Copenhagen cat-joke school
of "a multiverse" (because, there could be more than one .-)

thus quoth:
“Basic English,” which had a vocabulary of only 850 words, but which
he wished
to become the “world language.” In Wells' ...
www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/2007/2007.../22-26_747-48.pdf
> > A "force" is a net pressure
> > measured independently of the area of application. A "net pressure" is
> > the average amount of pressure in a given direction.)
>      http://esp.wookeepoopeeya.org/wookee/Presher#Definishun

thus: I just found abok that addresses many of the concerns
-- from a brief perusal of about three "random" openings, and
of the index -- of the Truthers;
it's from 2005, by a couple of NYTimes reporters,
_102 Minutes_, which was the time
from the attack of the north tower (WTC1) to its fall (as you know,
the first to be hit & last to fall).

thus: I'll huff and I'll puff....
have you ever proven a theorem in (say) constructive geometry?
> Ahahahaha...

thus: there are two 3d versions of the pythag.thm.,
each with different dimensional attributes....
iff you don't study Fermat's numbertheorie,
you're up Shitz Creek without a paddle; however,
it is better to start with his "reconstruction
of Euclid's porisms," although they are just planar
(synthetic geometry: see "Geometrical Fragments,"
belowsville .-)

thus: and, the other half d'oil evaporates, as has
been shown of late (again) in the newspapers. Congress and
the Administration are a bit behind, in using Iran Oil's
big blow-out in the Gulf, to leverage BP's cap&trade nostrum; eh?

a-yup: Such microbes have
been found in every ocean of the world sampled, from the Arctic
Antarctica. But there are reasons to think that the process may occur
more quickly in the Gulf than in other oceans.

--les ducs d'oil!
http://tarpley.net/online-books/

--Light, A History!
http://wlym.com/~animations/fermat/index.html
From: Day Brown on 1 Aug 2010 15:00
On 08/01/2010 07:55 AM, jmfbahciv wrote:
> IOW, your comments have nothing to do with subject matter.
>
> Do you know what _The Mechanical Universe_ series is about?
I'm not the one who cross posted this to alt.philosophy, where the question
of the universe comes up all the time along with the inadequacy of
various models, such as you have in mind.

I'm responding to the SUBJECT LINE. Which is a thread commonly seen at
alt.philosophy. If you think my comments are not relevant, then trip the
crossposting accordingly.

From: jmfbahciv on 2 Aug 2010 08:09
Day Brown wrote:
> On 08/01/2010 07:55 AM, jmfbahciv wrote:
>> IOW, your comments have nothing to do with subject matter.
>>
>> Do you know what _The Mechanical Universe_ series is about?
> I'm not the one who cross posted this to alt.philosophy, where the question
> of the universe comes up all the time along with the inadequacy of
> various models, such as you have in mind.

Perhaps philosophy needs a dose of science knowledge.

>
> I'm responding to the SUBJECT LINE. Which is a thread commonly seen at
> alt.philosophy. If you think my comments are not relevant, then trip the
> crossposting accordingly.
>
If you were not responding to what I wrote, why didn't you <snip>
what I wrote?

/BAH
First  |  Prev  |  Next  |  Last
Pages: 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36
Prev: NP+complete-problem navigation, search In computational complexity theory, the complexity class NP-complete (abbreviated NP-C or NPC), is a class of problems having two properties: * It is in the set of NP (nondeterministic polynomial time) pr
Next: Continuity and Uncountability