From: john on
On Apr 15, 12:29 pm, moro...(a)world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
wrote:
> john <vega...(a)accesscomm.ca> writes:
> >Simple, tidy, elegant.
>
> Illucid, word salad, idiot.

Galaxies are made from atoms.
Atoms are fusing in stars causing the
stars to radiate.
The stars radiate photons and neutrinos.
The photons result from the heat of fusion,
but photons are given off in many energy
events including static electricity discharge.
The neutrinos are given off *because of*
the fusion.

These neutrinos are absorbed by galactic
centers and provides the gravity between
them.

They do not provide *our* gravity. They
are much too big.

Electrons are not points- they are
made from electron matter. Electron matter
is atoms that are as much smaller than
our atoms as our atoms are smaller than
galaxies. (This per the Galaxy Model for the Atom
http://users.accesscomm.ca/john which you
denigrated as early as 2003) ;)
They are about 10 to the 27 times smaller.

This electron matter is spread out as a
cloud of star-like points that I call orts.
As in our stars, matter is constantly fusing
in these orts, and the orts are consequently
radiating.

The photons and neutrinos coming from
these orts are 10 to the 27 times smaller than
the ones coming from our sun. These are
the neutrinos that cause *our* gravity.

(I know, Michael, it's *so* idiotic)

john

p.s. It's Hydrogen fusing in stars, yes, but
the main fusion happening is the positive
and negative HEPs that were separated in
the galactic center and shot out the opposite jets
are now coming back together to form
Hydrogen and giving off neutrinos. This
Hydrogen is then fused to Helium, giving off
yet more units of surplus spin.

jss



From: Sam Wormley on
On 4/20/10 9:20 AM, john wrote:
> Galaxies are made from atoms[, molecules, dust and stars].
> Atoms are fusing in stars causing the
> stars to radiate.

Everything radiates. The requirement for radiating photons
is temperature.

> The stars radiate photons and neutrinos.

And emit solar winds too.


From: Y.Porat on
On Apr 15, 8:29 pm, moro...(a)world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
wrote:
> john <vega...(a)accesscomm.ca> writes:
> >Simple, tidy, elegant.
>
> Illucid, word salad, idiot.

--------------
so Genius Moroney

tell us what are your Gluons ??

TIA
Y.Porat
---------------------------------
From: PD on
On Apr 15, 1:07 am, john <vega...(a)accesscomm.ca> wrote:
> Does it have no volume like an electron?
> Does it have no shape like all the
> parts of the standard model?

John, first of all, "look like" is a statement that can only be made
about things that are larger than a micron or so. The reason is that
visual appearance relies on bouncing light off the features of the
object, and visible light (which has a wavelength of a few hundred
nanometers) will not bounce off objects smaller than its wavelength in
the usual sense. Visual appearance is something that only applies to
things of a certain size and above.

Secondly, shape is something that only applies to objects with volume
and boundaries. A diffuse gas cloud, a macroscopic object, doesn't
even have a shape, although you can draw an isosurface around the
region that has a certain density and above (even though the cloud
will extend quite a bit further than that). Even the clouds in the sky
don't have the shape you see. That's simply the boundary where light
scattering off the water vapor crosses a certain threshold -- the
cloud extends quite a bit further than that and in a way that doesn't
have a clear boundary. Moreover, volume is a property of composite
objects only, and the volume is due to the interaction between the
constituents more than it has to to with the size of the constituents.
Think about that for a minute. A salt crystal has volume, but it is
NOT the volume of the ions added up. The volume is determined by how
far apart the ions are held from each other by the quantum mechanical
electrostatic interactions between the ions. Same is true for the
atom, where the size of the atom comes strictly from the
electromagnetic interaction between the electrons and the nucleus.
Same is true for the nucleus, where the size of the nucleus is not the
sum of the sizes of the protons and neutrons but is instead due to the
interactions between the protons and neutrons.

To avoid making the mistake that the microscopic world is just like
the macroscopic world all over again, it will help to understand where
the properties of the macroscopic world come from in the first place.

>
> "In the weird, weird world of
> quantum, we know we're right if nothing makes
> sense. It's all real different
> down there, little feller, and you can't
> even imagine it."
>
> What a total crock.
>
> Talk about word salad, illucid, and idiot.
>
> Here's a way better story:
> every level makes its own gravity.
> Galaxies are made from atoms. The fusion
> of these atoms in suns gives off neutrinos.
> Neutrinos mediate gravity between galaxies
>
> Electrons are made from electron matter.
> The fusion of the electron matter  that is
> happening all the time within the electron
> gives off the radiation that mediates our gravity-
> the gravity between atoms.
>
> Simple, tidy, elegant.
>
> john

From: BURT on
On Apr 20, 10:25 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 20, 12:17 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 15, 8:29 pm, moro...(a)world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
> > wrote:
>
> > > john <vega...(a)accesscomm.ca> writes:
> > > >Simple, tidy, elegant.
>
> > > Illucid, word salad, idiot.
>
> > --------------
> > so Genius   Moroney
>
> > tell us what are your Gluons   ??
>
> Why do you need to be taught this here, when you can go towww.google.com
> and type in "gluon"?
>
>
>
>
>
> > TIA
> > Y.Porat
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>
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