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From: Ginny Caughey on 27 May 2007 06:53 Geoff, You are not denied VOPP. You just have to pay for it like everybody else if you want to use it. -- Ginny "Geoff Schaller" <geoff_(a)software_objectives.com.au> wrote in message news:46590c3d(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au... > Jamal, > >> Come on!! Exact bug with same register values, etc? Can't be!! >> Yes, it's a linker error but not the "Exact" bug! If Martin moves to VO >> 2.8 > > It has the same exception handler code of 0xC0000005 so it is the same bug > caused the same way. I have posted my error log entry so that Robert can > extract the relevant info. > >> Don't expect Robert to fix a linker error reported 2735!! <vbg> > > You see, he didn't. He just asked what it meant and fortunately the > meaning is quite clear and steps to avoid it equally clear. > >> I did not have the same problem with the Help file. Did you report you >> issue >> to Grafx? > > Quite a few people are experiencing this. It has been mentioned often > enough. > >> You're using 2816 and you want other to hold off based on your own >> experience, however, many other developers say it's the best version of >> VO > > Now you are reading too much into what I said. No I am not 'using' 2.8 > commercially yet. I have to rebuild a GSR and project builder now that > VOPP 3.1 is denied me. I am working with 2.8 like I work with Microsoft > beta products. I have not rebuilt my commercial apps in 2.8 because they > are going to need extensive testing. There are so many GUI class changes > that everyone should be really cautious before they release their code. I > have toolbar, menu, controlnotify and splitwindow issues I need to resolve > before I can risk my apps on clients. I am working through this and > resolving issues as I go. There are important problems here and obviously > some important fixes to come out from GrafX very soon. I recommend folks > holding off until they see those fixes or they'll go through what I have. > > Geoff >
From: Geoff Schaller on 27 May 2007 07:22 Ginny. > You are not denied VOPP. You just have to pay for it like everybody else if > you want to use it. Actually I am denied it - 3.1 is discontinued for VO 2.8. I purchased VOPP 3.1 to work with VO and every time the repo changed, VOPP was rebuilt in the new version and shipped. Now, if I wish to continue with VOPP on 2.8 I have no option but to upgrade. So I have to pay for an upgrade whether I like it or not. Most other 3rd party providers have produced a 2.8 compiled version. What is colouring my attitude this time is that isn't any new feature provided in the upgrade, just compatibility with the new VO compiler and Vista. Both are things I have to provide my clients for no cost. I don't accept for one second that Paul couldn't have spent a few hours 'fixing' 3.1 to work on 2.8 - everyone else did. Also, there have been annoying and significant bugs with VOPP for over two years now and I felt that a repaired version was more our due than a reward. Geoff
From: Geoff Schaller on 27 May 2007 07:27 I've pasted the error message into the ide thread of the grafx news server. "Robert van der Hulst" <E-55525A53-2710-E(a)heliks.nl> wrote in message news:622187321.20070527103920(a)heliks.nl: > Hi Geoff, > On Sun, 27 May 2007, at 04:42:17 [GMT +0000] (which was 6:42 where I live) > you wrote about: 'What does this mean please?' > > > >> Come on!! Exact bug with same register values, etc? Can't be!! > >> Yes, it's a linker error but not the "Exact" bug! If Martin moves to VO 2.8 > > > > It has the same exception handler code of 0xC0000005 so it is the same > > bug caused the same way. I have posted my error log entry so that Robert > > can extract the relevant info. > > > 0xC0000005 is an 'Access Violation' and can have thousands of different > causes. > > Where and when did you post your VO 2.8 error logs? Not on > support.cavo.com. If you want to be sure that the issue is not lost, you > need to post it there > > > -- > Robert van der Hulst > AKA Mr. Data > Vo2Jet & Vo2Ado Support > VO Development Team > www.heliks.nl
From: Ginny Caughey on 27 May 2007 08:22 Geoff, > is that isn't any new feature provided in the upgrade, just compatibility > with the new VO compiler and Vista. Both are things I have to provide my > clients for no cost. Just because you don't choose to charge your customers for your labor doesn't imply that no one else should. Ginny
From: Filip Fransen on 27 May 2007 08:27 Hi, That is what 'maintenance contracts' are for. I always sell a maintenance contract with my software. If I would give bug fixing for free this would imply that customers with no maintenance contract would get new features when they receive bug fixes. Filip "Ginny Caughey" <ginny.caughey.online(a)wasteworks.com> wrote in message news:465973b6$0$30507$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > Geoff, > >> is that isn't any new feature provided in the upgrade, just compatibility >> with the new VO compiler and Vista. Both are things I have to provide my >> clients for no cost. > > Just because you don't choose to charge your customers for your labor > doesn't imply that no one else should. > > Ginny
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