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From: Lars Enderin on 17 Feb 2010 12:32 Mike Schilling wrote: > Lew wrote: >> Lars Enderin wrote: >>>>> The fontshower applet alone is enough to turn me off. I says: >>>>> Sorry, you need Java 1.5+ to run this Applet. >>>>> I have Java 1.6! >> Lew wrote: >>>> Why is that a problem? You meet the requirement. >> Mike Schilling wrote: >>> But the message says that he doesn't. Perhaps he has a 1.6 JDK >>> installed, but the JRE used by the browser is only at 1.4. >> That's not what the message says. It says that he has Java 6 and >> doesn't even mention a JDK. It also doesn't actually say that he has >> a problem, only that the applet's requirement turns him off, an >> emotional response. > > I read it differently: that the applet issues the error message "Sorry, you > need Java 1.5+ to run this Applet", but this makes no sense to Lars because > he has Java 1.6. > Ok, I may not have Java correctly installed in my browser. I can't be bothered to do it at the moment.
From: Mike Schilling on 17 Feb 2010 12:43 Lew wrote: > Mike Schilling wrote: >> Lew wrote: >>> Lars Enderin wrote: >>>>>> The fontshower applet alone is enough to turn me off. I says: >>>>>> Sorry, you need Java 1.5+ to run this Applet. >>>>>> I have Java 1.6! >>> Lew wrote: >>>>> Why is that a problem? You meet the requirement. >>> Mike Schilling wrote: >>>> But the message says that he doesn't. Perhaps he has a 1.6 JDK >>>> installed, but the JRE used by the browser is only at 1.4. >>> That's not what the message says. It says that he has Java 6 and >>> doesn't even mention a JDK. It also doesn't actually say that he >>> has a problem, only that the applet's requirement turns him off, an >>> emotional response. >> >> I read it differently: that the applet issues the error message >> "Sorry, you need Java 1.5+ to run this Applet", but this makes no >> sense to Lars because he has Java 1.6. > > That's how I read it, too, although both of us had to infer to make > that interpretation. Especially because that objection doesn't make > sense. According to that interpretation, Lars's system meets the > requirement. Yes. > Leaving the question, "Why is that a problem?" Because the applet doesn't recognize that it does.
From: Lew on 17 Feb 2010 12:50 Mike Schilling wrote: > Lew wrote: >> Mike Schilling wrote: >>> Lew wrote: >>>> Lars Enderin wrote: >>>>>>> The fontshower applet alone is enough to turn me off. I says: >>>>>>> Sorry, you need Java 1.5+ to run this Applet. >>>>>>> I have Java 1.6! >>>> Lew wrote: >>>>>> Why is that a problem? You meet the requirement. >>>> Mike Schilling wrote: >>>>> But the message says that he doesn't. Perhaps he has a 1.6 JDK >>>>> installed, but the JRE used by the browser is only at 1.4. >>>> That's not what the message says. It says that he has Java 6 and >>>> doesn't even mention a JDK. It also doesn't actually say that he >>>> has a problem, only that the applet's requirement turns him off, an >>>> emotional response. >>> I read it differently: that the applet issues the error message >>> "Sorry, you need Java 1.5+ to run this Applet", but this makes no >>> sense to Lars because he has Java 1.6. >> That's how I read it, too, although both of us had to infer to make >> that interpretation. Especially because that objection doesn't make >> sense. According to that interpretation, Lars's system meets the >> requirement. > > Yes. > >> Leaving the question, "Why is that a problem?" > > Because the applet doesn't recognize that it does. How do you figure? It asks for Java 1.5+, and 1.6 is certainly above 1.5. -- Lew
From: Lew on 17 Feb 2010 12:52 Lars Enderin wrote: > Ok, I may not have Java correctly installed in my browser. I can't be > bothered to do it at the moment. You have Java 1.6, right? Doesn't that meet the requirement of being at least 1.5? This whole non-problem makes no sense to me, but then I'm not familiar with applets. Do applets complain when you have a more recent version of Java when they specify a minimum version? -- Lew
From: Lew on 17 Feb 2010 12:54
Mike Schilling wrote: > I read it differently: that the applet issues the error message "Sorry, you > need Java 1.5+ to run this Applet", but this makes no sense to Lars because > he has Java 1.6. I think I'm beginning to see what I'm missing. Apparently what Lars left out is that the applet refuses to run and complains that his version is not recent enough. The "applet refuses to run" part is what I didn't see in his post. Do I have that right? -- Lew |