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From: David H. Lipman on 4 Jul 2010 18:29 From: "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins(a)nomail.afraid.org> | On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 14:37:21 -0400, <no.top.post(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> So I was waiting for java to stabilise. >> Of course, we know that Micro$loth made efforts to crush/fork java. >> Has java got a future? | Don't know about java itself, but VirtualBox, which had previously | been purchased by Sun, now has the Oracle brand on it, and has had | several improvements released, since the purchase. So far, from | my point of view, it looks ok. | Regards, Dave Hodgins OpenOffice was just branded Oracle with v3.2.1 -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
From: Aragorn on 4 Jul 2010 18:40 On Monday 05 July 2010 00:29 in comp.os.linux.misc, somebody identifying as David H. Lipman wrote... > From: "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins(a)nomail.afraid.org> > > | On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 14:37:21 -0400, <no.top.post(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> So I was waiting for java to stabilise. >>> Of course, we know that Micro$loth made efforts to crush/fork java. >>> Has java got a future? > > | Don't know about java itself, but VirtualBox, which had previously > | been purchased by Sun, now has the Oracle brand on it, and has had > | several improvements released, since the purchase. So far, from > | my point of view, it looks ok. > > | Regards, Dave Hodgins > > OpenOffice was just branded Oracle with v3.2.1 I have no idea what Solaris reports these days, but Oracle seem very eager to call it their own as well... http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/solaris/index.html -- *Aragorn* (registered GNU/Linux user #223157)
From: David H. Lipman on 5 Jul 2010 00:10 From: "Aragorn" <aragorn(a)chatfactory.invalid> | On Monday 05 July 2010 00:29 in comp.os.linux.misc, somebody identifying | as David H. Lipman wrote... >> From: "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins(a)nomail.afraid.org> >> | On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 14:37:21 -0400, <no.top.post(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> So I was waiting for java to stabilise. >>>> Of course, we know that Micro$loth made efforts to crush/fork java. >>>> Has java got a future? >> | Don't know about java itself, but VirtualBox, which had previously >> | been purchased by Sun, now has the Oracle brand on it, and has had >> | several improvements released, since the purchase. So far, from >> | my point of view, it looks ok. >> | Regards, Dave Hodgins >> OpenOffice was just branded Oracle with v3.2.1 | I have no idea what Solaris reports these days, but Oracle seem very | eager to call it their own as well... | http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/solaris/index.html I just hope Oracle and get the people at Sun to secure JRE. It is been theo source or many and infected computer due to its many vulnerabilities and subsequent exploitation. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
From: Robert Heller on 5 Jul 2010 00:16 At Mon, 05 Jul 2010 00:40:49 +0200 Aragorn <aragorn(a)chatfactory.invalid> wrote: > > On Monday 05 July 2010 00:29 in comp.os.linux.misc, somebody identifying > as David H. Lipman wrote... > > > From: "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins(a)nomail.afraid.org> > > > > | On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 14:37:21 -0400, <no.top.post(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>> So I was waiting for java to stabilise. > >>> Of course, we know that Micro$loth made efforts to crush/fork java. > >>> Has java got a future? > > > > | Don't know about java itself, but VirtualBox, which had previously > > | been purchased by Sun, now has the Oracle brand on it, and has had > > | several improvements released, since the purchase. So far, from > > | my point of view, it looks ok. > > > > | Regards, Dave Hodgins > > > > OpenOffice was just branded Oracle with v3.2.1 > > I have no idea what Solaris reports these days, but Oracle seem very > eager to call it their own as well... > > http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/solaris/index.html Sun's main reason for selling / folding was because sales of SparcServers/SparcStations has been declining -- it is just cheaper to build a server or workstation using Intel/AMD based commodity systems, etc. and then installing Linux or FreeBSD, (I guess you could install Open-Solaris/x86 on a generic Intel or AMD system, but Sun did not make any money that way). Yes, Sun was making and selling Intel/AMD based systems, but they weren't as cheap as say Dells or HPs, etc. I expect that Solaris might be going the way of other 'commercial' UNIX flavors -- either dieing completely or ending up in a fairly small nitch market. OTOH, Oracle might be able to 'revive' Solaris & SparcServer as a high end system platform for high end database servers running Oracle as the database system, but this is still probably going to be a nitch market thing. -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 Deepwoods Software -- Download the Model Railroad System http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Binaries for Linux and MS-Windows heller(a)deepsoft.com -- http://www.deepsoft.com/ModelRailroadSystem/
From: blmblm on 9 Jul 2010 08:03
In article <i0qvb5$9ni$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Aragorn <aragorn(a)chatfactory.invalid> wrote: > On Sunday 04 July 2010 20:37 in comp.os.linux.misc, somebody identifying > as no.top.post(a)gmail.com wrote... [ snip ] > Java compiles to bytecode, which gets executed in a so-called Java > Virtual Machine, or as Sun used to call it, a Java Runtime Environment. > This makes Java extremely portable, but also noticeably slower than > other languages. For suitable values of "noticeably slower", maybe .... As I understand it, most/all current JVMs do "just in time" compilation to native code, with the result that the speed difference between a Java application and its equivalent in a language such as C++ can be a lot smaller than it was when JVMs worked only by interpreting bytecode. It's not the language I'd pick if I needed the best possible performance, and I don't want to start a flame war here, but -- just sayin'. [ snip ] -- B. L. Massingill ObDisclaimer: I don't speak for my employers; they return the favor. |