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From: pekka.virtanen on 15 Dec 2009 07:07
Albert Einstein did not accept quantum theories. He said that they are
a temporary stage to some other model. For example, the abstract
propability waves of elementary particles were too much for him.

The geometric structure of empty space is not a part of quantum
mechanis. Empty space, its lengths and its directions, are not
quantized there. Geometry of empty physical space may have an
essential role to combine quantum mechanics with gravity. According to
the Relativity theory an empy space has some properties. It is more
than nothing.

The structure of empy physical space can be defined cell-structured
and to seem isotropic. It is abolute (, but not the same as Newton's
absolute space) and Lorentz-compatible. It shows that a certain
geometry is standing behind the abstract propability waves and behind
the non-locality of quantum mechanis. It will suggest a new solution
to the gauge problem of quantum mechanics. The solution is in the
space.

More about this subject:

http://www.netikka.net/mpeltonen/siirretyt/tekstit/dtheory.htm

Pekka Virtanen
From: Sam Wormley on 15 Dec 2009 09:54
On 12/15/09 6:07 AM, pekka.virtanen(a)webinfo.fi wrote:
> Albert Einstein did not accept quantum theories. He said that they are
> a temporary stage to some other model. For example, the abstract
> probability waves of elementary particles were too much for him.
>

Observation shows that Einstein was wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell's_theorem

No physical theory of local hidden variables can ever reproduce
all of the predictions of quantum mechanics.


From: zzbunker on 15 Dec 2009 10:24
On Dec 15, 9:54 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)mchsi.com> wrote:
> On 12/15/09 6:07 AM, pekka.virta...(a)webinfo.fi wrote:
>
> > Albert Einstein did not accept quantum theories. He said that they are
> > a temporary stage to some other model. For example, the abstract
> > probability waves of elementary particles were too much for him.
>
>    Observation shows that Einstein was wrong.
>      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell's_theorem
>
>    No physical theory of local hidden variables can ever reproduce
>    all of the predictions of quantum mechanics.

But, that's not the question. Since nothing but wave-particle
probabilty waves
can reproduce all the predictions of quantum mechanics. But
since what the uneducable
QMers can't understand with their idiot "throw more math at it,
that'll fix it!!"
idiot theories of almost everything don't understand is that
that doesn't mean
that the idiot stuff actually exists anywhere except in the
crank virtual photon field.

So the educable people still build atomic clock wristwatches,
laser-guided phasors, data fusion,
optical computers, multiplexed fiber optics, holograms, mp3,
mpeg, blue ray, desltop publishing,
on-line publishing, xml, cyber batteries, hybtid-electric
energy, home broadband,
digital-terrain mapping, self-replicating machines, self-
assembling robots,
hdtv, the histroy channel, gps, rapid prototyping, post Fortran
crank-a-thons,
biodiesel, microwave cooling, post GM-nomics, and The 21st
Century, and
let the uneducable be uneducable.


From: Sam Wormley on 15 Dec 2009 10:55
On 12/15/09 9:24 AM, zzbunker(a)netscape.net wrote:

>
> But, that's not the question. Since nothing but wave-particle
> probabilty waves
> can reproduce all the predictions of quantum mechanics. But
> since what the uneducable
> QMers can't understand with their idiot "throw more math at it,
> that'll fix it!!"
> idiot theories of almost everything don't understand is that
> that doesn't mean
> that the idiot stuff actually exists anywhere except in the
> crank virtual photon field.
>
> So the educable people still build atomic clock wristwatches,
> laser-guided phasors, data fusion,
> optical computers, multiplexed fiber optics, holograms, mp3,
> mpeg, blue ray, desltop publishing,
> on-line publishing, xml, cyber batteries, hybtid-electric
> energy, home broadband,
> digital-terrain mapping, self-replicating machines, self-
> assembling robots,
> hdtv, the histroy channel, gps, rapid prototyping, post Fortran
> crank-a-thons,
> biodiesel, microwave cooling, post GM-nomics, and The 21st
> Century, and
> let the uneducable be uneducable.
>
>

I have trouble reading with all the carriage returns your newsreader inserted.

From: zzbunker on 15 Dec 2009 12:02
On Dec 15, 10:55 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)mchsi.com> wrote:
> On 12/15/09 9:24 AM, zzbun...(a)netscape.net wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >        But, that's not the question. Since nothing but wave-particle
> > probabilty waves
> >        can reproduce all the predictions of quantum mechanics. But
> > since what the uneducable
> >        QMers can't understand with their idiot  "throw more math at it,
> > that'll fix it!!"
> >        idiot theories of almost everything don't understand is that
> > that doesn't mean
> >        that the idiot stuff actually exists anywhere except in the
> > crank virtual photon field.
>
> >        So the educable people still build atomic clock wristwatches,
> > laser-guided phasors, data fusion,
> >        optical computers, multiplexed fiber optics, holograms, mp3,
> > mpeg, blue ray, desltop publishing,
> >        on-line publishing, xml, cyber batteries, hybtid-electric
> > energy, home broadband,
> >        digital-terrain mapping, self-replicating machines, self-
> > assembling robots,
> >        hdtv, the histroy channel, gps, rapid prototyping, post Fortran
> > crank-a-thons,
> >        biodiesel, microwave cooling, post GM-nomics, and The 21st
> > Century, and
> >        let the uneducable be uneducable.
>
>    I have trouble reading with all the carriage returns your newsreader inserted.- Hide quoted text -

That's why it's called news, rather than ASCII.
That's why it's called trouble, rather than Turing Machines.
And of course, that's why it's called optical, rather than
something idiotic, like Unix.





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