From: socratus on 3 Dec 2009 00:27 What is the material basis of consciousness ? I think : the Vacuum and Electron are the material basis of Consciousness. Why? Because now nobody knows what the Vacuum and Electron are. 1. " The problem of the exact description of vacuum, in my opinion, is the basic problem now before physics. Really, if you cant correctly describe the vacuum, how it is possible to expect a correct description of something more complex? " / Paul Dirac ./ 2. You know, it would be sufficient to really understand the electron. / Albert Einstein./ # Tell me what an electron is and I'll then tell you everything. / Somebody./ == . And I think, when we understand the Vacuum and Electron we will know the Ultimate Nature of Reality, it means we will know the material basis of consciousness too. == . Best wishes. Israel Sadovnik. Socratus.
From: Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr. on 3 Dec 2009 03:39 On Dec 2, 9:27 pm, socratus <isra...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > What is the material basis of consciousness ? > > I think : the Vacuum and Electron are the > material basis of Consciousness. > Why? > Because now nobody knows what the Vacuum and Electron are. > That reminds of an old Soviet joke: Q. What is the difference between a "communist democracy" and a four- letter swear word? A. Everybody understands four-letter swear words, but pretends that one doesn't. With "communist democracy" - it's the other way around. > 1. > " The problem of the exact description of vacuum, in my opinion, > is the basic problem now before physics. Really, if you cant > correctly > describe the vacuum, how it is possible to expect a correct > description > of something more complex? " > / Paul Dirac ./ > 2. > You know, it would be sufficient to really understand the electron. > / Albert Einstein./ > # > Tell me what an electron is and I'll then tell you everything. > / Somebody./ > == . > And I think, when we understand the Vacuum and Electron > we will know the Ultimate Nature of Reality, it means we > will know the material basis of consciousness too. > == . > Best wishes. > Israel Sadovnik. Socratus. > What a mischugas.
From: socratus on 4 Dec 2009 08:14 We have one brain which works dualistically according to the Quantum theory of Dualism of particle. == . "... indeed an understanding of psi phenomena and of consciousness must provide the basis of an improved understanding of quantum mechanics." / Evan Walker /
From: Robert on 4 Dec 2009 09:34 On 3 Dec, 05:27, socratus <isra...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > What is the material basis of consciousness ? > > I think : the Vacuum and Electron are the > material basis of Consciousness. > Why? > Because now nobody knows what the Vacuum and Electron are. > 1. > " The problem of the exact description of vacuum, in my opinion, > is the basic problem now before physics. Really, if you cant > correctly > describe the vacuum, how it is possible to expect a correct > description > of something more complex? " > / Paul Dirac ./ > 2. > You know, it would be sufficient to really understand the electron. > / Albert Einstein./ > # > Tell me what an electron is and I'll then tell you everything. > / Somebody./ > == . > And I think, when we understand the Vacuum and Electron > we will know the Ultimate Nature of Reality, it means we > will know the material basis of consciousness too. > == . > Best wishes. > Israel Sadovnik. Socratus. It's a curious basis on which to relate problems, by the fact that they are not understood. Surely one could relate consciousness to all kinds of things on that basis? (Apparent) consciousness is the huge elephant in the room of science though.
From: socratus on 4 Dec 2009 10:33 On Dec 4, 4:34 pm, Robert <robertmarkharri...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 3 Dec, 05:27, socratus <isra...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > It's a curious basis on which to relate problems, by the fact that > they are not understood. Surely one could relate consciousness to all > kinds of things on that basis? > > (Apparent) consciousness is the huge elephant in the room of science > though.- > - Show quoted text - There are a vast number of other physical processes that are not understood and defy current description. Why did I choose from many complex quantities these two things: Vacuum and Electron as basis of beginning ? ======================== . 1. Because the Vacuum is the Source of the Universe. 2. Because when Electron interacts with Vacuum its parameters become infinite. ( it means the Vacuum absorbed Electron { now we call it virtual particle } and in future the Vacuum will radiate Electron back as the Quantum theory says.) 3. These two facts are primary conditions of Existence.
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