From: John Fields on
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:53:01 -0400, Michael Black <et472(a)ncf.ca> wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Eddie wrote:
>
>> I want to write (by hand) if some voice recordings of mine are in
>> mono or stereo.
>>
>> Are there some standard symbols used for a mono mic and a stereo
>> mic?
>>
>> Are there mono/stereo mic symbols used in schematic circuit diagrams
>> which could be used?
>>
>There are rarely stereo microphones. Usually just two microphones. Even
>when something has two microphone elements in close proximity, on a
>schematic they would appear as two microphones, since there would be
>two elements hooked up to separate circuitry.
>
>Why not "M" for mono, "S" for stereo?
>
>That's so much simpler than drawing a symbol, even if you had something
>that was standard.
>
> Michael

---
http://library.thinkquest.org/10784/circuit_symbols.html
From: Michael Black on
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, John Fields wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:53:01 -0400, Michael Black <et472(a)ncf.ca> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Eddie wrote:
>>
>>> I want to write (by hand) if some voice recordings of mine are in
>>> mono or stereo.
>>>
>>> Are there some standard symbols used for a mono mic and a stereo
>>> mic?
>>>
>>> Are there mono/stereo mic symbols used in schematic circuit diagrams
>>> which could be used?
>>>
>> There are rarely stereo microphones. Usually just two microphones. Even
>> when something has two microphone elements in close proximity, on a
>> schematic they would appear as two microphones, since there would be
>> two elements hooked up to separate circuitry.
>>
>> Why not "M" for mono, "S" for stereo?
>>
>> That's so much simpler than drawing a symbol, even if you had something
>> that was standard.
>>
>> Michael
>
> ---
> http://library.thinkquest.org/10784/circuit_symbols.html
>
But he wants something to indicate mono or stereo. I agree, that's a
fairly standard symbol for a microphone, but he wants something to
indicate stereo. And I would argue that an "M" is still simpler than
drawing the mic symbol.

Michael

From: ehsjr on
Michael Black wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, John Fields wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:53:01 -0400, Michael Black <et472(a)ncf.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Eddie wrote:
>>>
>>>> I want to write (by hand) if some voice recordings of mine are in
>>>> mono or stereo.
>>>>
>>>> Are there some standard symbols used for a mono mic and a stereo
>>>> mic?
>>>>
>>>> Are there mono/stereo mic symbols used in schematic circuit diagrams
>>>> which could be used?
>>>>
>>> There are rarely stereo microphones. Usually just two microphones.
>>> Even
>>> when something has two microphone elements in close proximity, on a
>>> schematic they would appear as two microphones, since there would be
>>> two elements hooked up to separate circuitry.
>>>
>>> Why not "M" for mono, "S" for stereo?
>>>
>>> That's so much simpler than drawing a symbol, even if you had something
>>> that was standard.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>
>>
>> ---
>> http://library.thinkquest.org/10784/circuit_symbols.html
>>
> But he wants something to indicate mono or stereo. I agree, that's a
> fairly standard symbol for a microphone, but he wants something to
> indicate stereo. And I would argue that an "M" is still simpler than
> drawing the mic symbol.
>
> Michael
>

Simpler is irrelevant. It's all about clear communication, not
about whether a symbol is easier or harder to draw.

If it is not a standard symbol, then the person looking at the
schematic may not understand what the symbol is supposed to
mean. D= is a mic symbol (when properly drawn) - there is no need
to identify it as mono with an M, it already is mono. If you
replace the symbol with an M, you still need to show the two
legs. And someone could still mistake it - for example, maybe the
"M" means meter. If you want to show a mic as stereo, then you
have to show where the other two legs connect, so merely adding
an S is not enough. And if you show it as just an S, someone might
think it represents a sine wave.

Ed
From: John Fields on
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:15:56 -0400, Michael Black <et472(a)ncf.ca> wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, John Fields wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:53:01 -0400, Michael Black <et472(a)ncf.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Eddie wrote:
>>>
>>>> I want to write (by hand) if some voice recordings of mine are in
>>>> mono or stereo.
>>>>
>>>> Are there some standard symbols used for a mono mic and a stereo
>>>> mic?
>>>>
>>>> Are there mono/stereo mic symbols used in schematic circuit diagrams
>>>> which could be used?
>>>>
>>> There are rarely stereo microphones. Usually just two microphones. Even
>>> when something has two microphone elements in close proximity, on a
>>> schematic they would appear as two microphones, since there would be
>>> two elements hooked up to separate circuitry.
>>>
>>> Why not "M" for mono, "S" for stereo?
>>>
>>> That's so much simpler than drawing a symbol, even if you had something
>>> that was standard.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>
>> ---
>> http://library.thinkquest.org/10784/circuit_symbols.html
>>
>But he wants something to indicate mono or stereo. I agree, that's a
>fairly standard symbol for a microphone, but he wants something to
>indicate stereo. And I would argue that an "M" is still simpler than
>drawing the mic symbol.

---
If it's on a schematic some sort of symbol will need to be drawn, no
matter what, and if it's mono a single symbol with its reference
designator (MK1, say) will work.

For a case of a single stereo microphone I'd use two symbols enclosed
within a dashed line rectangle and reference designators MK1L and MK1R.


From: Michael Black on
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, ehsjr wrote:

> Michael Black wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, John Fields wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:53:01 -0400, Michael Black <et472(a)ncf.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Eddie wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I want to write (by hand) if some voice recordings of mine are in
>>>>> mono or stereo.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there some standard symbols used for a mono mic and a stereo
>>>>> mic?
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there mono/stereo mic symbols used in schematic circuit diagrams
>>>>> which could be used?
>>>>>
>>>> There are rarely stereo microphones. Usually just two microphones. Even
>>>> when something has two microphone elements in close proximity, on a
>>>> schematic they would appear as two microphones, since there would be
>>>> two elements hooked up to separate circuitry.
>>>>
>>>> Why not "M" for mono, "S" for stereo?
>>>>
>>>> That's so much simpler than drawing a symbol, even if you had something
>>>> that was standard.
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> http://library.thinkquest.org/10784/circuit_symbols.html
>>>
>> But he wants something to indicate mono or stereo. I agree, that's a
>> fairly standard symbol for a microphone, but he wants something to indicate
>> stereo. And I would argue that an "M" is still simpler than
>> drawing the mic symbol.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>
> Simpler is irrelevant. It's all about clear communication, not
> about whether a symbol is easier or harder to draw.
>
Reread his post. He's talking about labelling recorded material, not
drawing a schematic. What's relevant for a schematic is not relevant in
this case.

Using letters or full words, "Mono" and "Stereo" fits the scenario far
better than trying to find some imaginary schematic symbol for a "stereo
microphone" which will take a lot more effort to draw for his purposes.

Michael


> If it is not a standard symbol, then the person looking at the
> schematic may not understand what the symbol is supposed to
> mean. D= is a mic symbol (when properly drawn) - there is no need
> to identify it as mono with an M, it already is mono. If you
> replace the symbol with an M, you still need to show the two
> legs. And someone could still mistake it - for example, maybe the
> "M" means meter. If you want to show a mic as stereo, then you
> have to show where the other two legs connect, so merely adding
> an S is not enough. And if you show it as just an S, someone might
> think it represents a sine wave.
>
> Ed
>
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