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From: John Fields on 15 Oct 2009 14:06 On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:53:01 -0400, Michael Black <et472(a)ncf.ca> wrote: >On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Eddie wrote: > >> I want to write (by hand) if some voice recordings of mine are in >> mono or stereo. >> >> Are there some standard symbols used for a mono mic and a stereo >> mic? >> >> Are there mono/stereo mic symbols used in schematic circuit diagrams >> which could be used? >> >There are rarely stereo microphones. Usually just two microphones. Even >when something has two microphone elements in close proximity, on a >schematic they would appear as two microphones, since there would be >two elements hooked up to separate circuitry. > >Why not "M" for mono, "S" for stereo? > >That's so much simpler than drawing a symbol, even if you had something >that was standard. > > Michael --- http://library.thinkquest.org/10784/circuit_symbols.html
From: Michael Black on 15 Oct 2009 21:15 On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, John Fields wrote: > On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:53:01 -0400, Michael Black <et472(a)ncf.ca> wrote: > >> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Eddie wrote: >> >>> I want to write (by hand) if some voice recordings of mine are in >>> mono or stereo. >>> >>> Are there some standard symbols used for a mono mic and a stereo >>> mic? >>> >>> Are there mono/stereo mic symbols used in schematic circuit diagrams >>> which could be used? >>> >> There are rarely stereo microphones. Usually just two microphones. Even >> when something has two microphone elements in close proximity, on a >> schematic they would appear as two microphones, since there would be >> two elements hooked up to separate circuitry. >> >> Why not "M" for mono, "S" for stereo? >> >> That's so much simpler than drawing a symbol, even if you had something >> that was standard. >> >> Michael > > --- > http://library.thinkquest.org/10784/circuit_symbols.html > But he wants something to indicate mono or stereo. I agree, that's a fairly standard symbol for a microphone, but he wants something to indicate stereo. And I would argue that an "M" is still simpler than drawing the mic symbol. Michael
From: ehsjr on 15 Oct 2009 23:26 Michael Black wrote: > On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, John Fields wrote: > >> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:53:01 -0400, Michael Black <et472(a)ncf.ca> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Eddie wrote: >>> >>>> I want to write (by hand) if some voice recordings of mine are in >>>> mono or stereo. >>>> >>>> Are there some standard symbols used for a mono mic and a stereo >>>> mic? >>>> >>>> Are there mono/stereo mic symbols used in schematic circuit diagrams >>>> which could be used? >>>> >>> There are rarely stereo microphones. Usually just two microphones. >>> Even >>> when something has two microphone elements in close proximity, on a >>> schematic they would appear as two microphones, since there would be >>> two elements hooked up to separate circuitry. >>> >>> Why not "M" for mono, "S" for stereo? >>> >>> That's so much simpler than drawing a symbol, even if you had something >>> that was standard. >>> >>> Michael >> >> >> --- >> http://library.thinkquest.org/10784/circuit_symbols.html >> > But he wants something to indicate mono or stereo. I agree, that's a > fairly standard symbol for a microphone, but he wants something to > indicate stereo. And I would argue that an "M" is still simpler than > drawing the mic symbol. > > Michael > Simpler is irrelevant. It's all about clear communication, not about whether a symbol is easier or harder to draw. If it is not a standard symbol, then the person looking at the schematic may not understand what the symbol is supposed to mean. D= is a mic symbol (when properly drawn) - there is no need to identify it as mono with an M, it already is mono. If you replace the symbol with an M, you still need to show the two legs. And someone could still mistake it - for example, maybe the "M" means meter. If you want to show a mic as stereo, then you have to show where the other two legs connect, so merely adding an S is not enough. And if you show it as just an S, someone might think it represents a sine wave. Ed
From: John Fields on 16 Oct 2009 08:13 On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:15:56 -0400, Michael Black <et472(a)ncf.ca> wrote: >On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, John Fields wrote: > >> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:53:01 -0400, Michael Black <et472(a)ncf.ca> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Eddie wrote: >>> >>>> I want to write (by hand) if some voice recordings of mine are in >>>> mono or stereo. >>>> >>>> Are there some standard symbols used for a mono mic and a stereo >>>> mic? >>>> >>>> Are there mono/stereo mic symbols used in schematic circuit diagrams >>>> which could be used? >>>> >>> There are rarely stereo microphones. Usually just two microphones. Even >>> when something has two microphone elements in close proximity, on a >>> schematic they would appear as two microphones, since there would be >>> two elements hooked up to separate circuitry. >>> >>> Why not "M" for mono, "S" for stereo? >>> >>> That's so much simpler than drawing a symbol, even if you had something >>> that was standard. >>> >>> Michael >> >> --- >> http://library.thinkquest.org/10784/circuit_symbols.html >> >But he wants something to indicate mono or stereo. I agree, that's a >fairly standard symbol for a microphone, but he wants something to >indicate stereo. And I would argue that an "M" is still simpler than >drawing the mic symbol. --- If it's on a schematic some sort of symbol will need to be drawn, no matter what, and if it's mono a single symbol with its reference designator (MK1, say) will work. For a case of a single stereo microphone I'd use two symbols enclosed within a dashed line rectangle and reference designators MK1L and MK1R.
From: Michael Black on 16 Oct 2009 11:49
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, ehsjr wrote: > Michael Black wrote: >> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, John Fields wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:53:01 -0400, Michael Black <et472(a)ncf.ca> wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Eddie wrote: >>>> >>>>> I want to write (by hand) if some voice recordings of mine are in >>>>> mono or stereo. >>>>> >>>>> Are there some standard symbols used for a mono mic and a stereo >>>>> mic? >>>>> >>>>> Are there mono/stereo mic symbols used in schematic circuit diagrams >>>>> which could be used? >>>>> >>>> There are rarely stereo microphones. Usually just two microphones. Even >>>> when something has two microphone elements in close proximity, on a >>>> schematic they would appear as two microphones, since there would be >>>> two elements hooked up to separate circuitry. >>>> >>>> Why not "M" for mono, "S" for stereo? >>>> >>>> That's so much simpler than drawing a symbol, even if you had something >>>> that was standard. >>>> >>>> Michael >>> >>> >>> --- >>> http://library.thinkquest.org/10784/circuit_symbols.html >>> >> But he wants something to indicate mono or stereo. I agree, that's a >> fairly standard symbol for a microphone, but he wants something to indicate >> stereo. And I would argue that an "M" is still simpler than >> drawing the mic symbol. >> >> Michael >> > > Simpler is irrelevant. It's all about clear communication, not > about whether a symbol is easier or harder to draw. > Reread his post. He's talking about labelling recorded material, not drawing a schematic. What's relevant for a schematic is not relevant in this case. Using letters or full words, "Mono" and "Stereo" fits the scenario far better than trying to find some imaginary schematic symbol for a "stereo microphone" which will take a lot more effort to draw for his purposes. Michael > If it is not a standard symbol, then the person looking at the > schematic may not understand what the symbol is supposed to > mean. D= is a mic symbol (when properly drawn) - there is no need > to identify it as mono with an M, it already is mono. If you > replace the symbol with an M, you still need to show the two > legs. And someone could still mistake it - for example, maybe the > "M" means meter. If you want to show a mic as stereo, then you > have to show where the other two legs connect, so merely adding > an S is not enough. And if you show it as just an S, someone might > think it represents a sine wave. > > Ed > |