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From: Douglas Berry on 27 Mar 2005 01:47 On 26 Mar 2005 14:09:53 -0800, "The great philosopher-criminologist" <bedford_park2000(a)yahoo.ca> drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following >What is wrong with saying that God works in Mysterious ways? It's a cop out. It removes all requirements for evidence. -- Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5 "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction." Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
From: Gavan on 27 Mar 2005 02:02 "The great philosopher-criminologist" <bedford_park2000(a)yahoo.ca> wrote in message news:<1111874993.415822.226320(a)l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>... > What is wrong with saying that God works in Mysterious ways? Don't you think it's strange that what you define as 'mysterious' may be defined by some as 'evil' or 'sadistic'. I'm sure that thousands of children who starve to death every day world wide don't use the word 'mysterious' with their last gasps of breath. Nor would I imagine that the thousands of mothers of these children are accustomed to that word either. This is not to deny the other side of the coin. Good things happen to people every day (sometimes to those who the majority of us define as 'unworthy'). The sheer randomness and inequality of it only points to one of two things; either your God is bipolar and is off his med's (and he/she has a seriously twisted imagination) or he/she doesn't in fact exist at all.
From: Denis Loubet on 27 Mar 2005 03:14 "The great philosopher-criminologist" <bedford_park2000(a)yahoo.ca> wrote in message news:1111880705.429415.226920(a)f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > Denis Loubet wrote: >> "The great philosopher-criminologist" <bedford_park2000(a)yahoo.ca> > wrote in >> message news:1111874993.415822.226320(a)l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >> > What is wrong with saying that God works in Mysterious ways? >> >> Well, if it said to excuse the supposed actions of a god, then the > one >> saying it is stating that they don't actually care what the god they > believe >> in does, or what its motives are, they'll just worship it anyway. >> >> It's a big denial of personal responsibility. It's like saying "I'll > follow >> that Hitler guy anywhere. I know he kills Jews, but I'm sure he has > our best >> interests at heart." > > Well, for some people, as long as they are comforted, that is all that > matters. And thus those people have no sense of personal responsibility. I'd rather not have to share the world with useless scum like that. -- Denis Loubet dloubet(a)io.com http://www.io.com/~dloubet
From: kathryn on 27 Mar 2005 07:14 "The great philosopher-criminologist" <bedford_park2000(a)yahoo.ca> wrote in message news:1111874993.415822.226320(a)l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > What is wrong with saying that God works in Mysterious ways? There is no god Something that doesn't exist cannot work in anyway let alone mysteriously
From: kathryn on 27 Mar 2005 07:15
"The great philosopher-criminologist" <bedford_park2000(a)yahoo.ca> wrote in message news:1111880705.429415.226920(a)f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > Denis Loubet wrote: >> "The great philosopher-criminologist" <bedford_park2000(a)yahoo.ca> > wrote in >> message news:1111874993.415822.226320(a)l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >> > What is wrong with saying that God works in Mysterious ways? >> >> Well, if it said to excuse the supposed actions of a god, then the > one >> saying it is stating that they don't actually care what the god they > believe >> in does, or what its motives are, they'll just worship it anyway. >> >> It's a big denial of personal responsibility. It's like saying "I'll > follow >> that Hitler guy anywhere. I know he kills Jews, but I'm sure he has > our best >> interests at heart." > > Well, for some people, as long as they are comforted, that is all that > matters. it's when they stopped being comforted and start imposing their belief system on everyone else is when the problem starts |