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From: John Jones on 28 Mar 2010 18:33 There are only two kinds of scientist. One kind is the monkey-scientist. The monkey-scientist is noisy and leaps from stone to branch posturing, grinning and gibbering to onlookers, who are awestruck by this real-time display of science in action. The other kind of scientist is the bone-rattler. The bone-rattler is silent and shakes a rattle at dissent or inquiry. Onlookers are impressed by this display as it reminds them of the hidden strengths of science.
From: Mark Earnest on 28 Mar 2010 18:58 "John Jones" <jonescardiff(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message news:hoolgj$3k9$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > There are only two kinds of scientist. > > One kind is the monkey-scientist. The monkey-scientist is noisy and leaps > from stone to branch posturing, grinning and gibbering to onlookers, who > are awestruck by this real-time display of science in action. > > The other kind of scientist is the bone-rattler. The bone-rattler is > silent and shakes a rattle at dissent or inquiry. Onlookers are impressed > by this display as it reminds them of the hidden strengths of science. A scientist is an esteemed colleague that patronizes other scientists in order to have the same returned to himself, with little regard for reality.
From: omprem on 28 Mar 2010 20:29 On Mar 28, 6:33 pm, John Jones <jonescard...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > There are only two kinds of scientist. > > One kind is the monkey-scientist. The monkey-scientist is noisy and > leaps from stone to branch posturing, grinning and gibbering to > onlookers, who are awestruck by this real-time display of science in action. > > The other kind of scientist is the bone-rattler. The bone-rattler is > silent and shakes a rattle at dissent or inquiry. Onlookers are > impressed by this display as it reminds them of the hidden strengths of > science. There is a third kind of scientist, a good kind of scientist, and that is the scientist who initially uses empirical means to explore the unknown possibilities of existence and is prepared to allow his prejudices to be dispelled, his learning modes to be refined and changed, and his consciousness expanded. These scientists are among the leading astro-physicists. Your other two types of scientist can be likened to a steward who is content to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic while it is sinking. They can make major changes in very minor areas. The third kind that I mentioned can eventually know the face of God, so to speak.
From: THE BORG on 28 Mar 2010 20:52 "omprem" <omprem108(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:9092bfcc-c859-4f98-a3a8-669721597f91(a)h27g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... On Mar 28, 6:33 pm, John Jones <jonescard...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > There are only two kinds of scientist. > > One kind is the monkey-scientist. The monkey-scientist is > noisy and > leaps from stone to branch posturing, grinning and > gibbering to > onlookers, who are awestruck by this real-time display of > science in action. > > The other kind of scientist is the bone-rattler. The > bone-rattler is > silent and shakes a rattle at dissent or inquiry. > Onlookers are > impressed by this display as it reminds them of the hidden > strengths of > science. There is a third kind of scientist, a good kind of scientist, and that is the scientist who initially uses empirical means to explore the unknown possibilities of existence and is prepared to allow his prejudices to be dispelled, his learning modes to be refined and changed, and his consciousness expanded. These scientists are among the leading astro-physicists. Your other two types of scientist can be likened to a steward who is content to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic while it is sinking. They can make major changes in very minor areas. The third kind that I mentioned can eventually know the face of God, so to speak. ****** Cosmology is also interesting. Here is a snippet on Esoteric Cosmology which is quite enlightening. Here in this snippet you can see that he states there is no God, or concept of God, no concept of sin or salvation, merely that in eternity, it is the goal of all life to work with one aim, and that is to alleviate boredom. ***** Michael Sharp in The Book of Light elucidates a Kabbalistic cosmology where "consciousness is the root" of all things including (and perhaps especially) the physical universe and all its dimensions. According to Sharp, consciousness "unfolds" from the original, monadic I (the single point) to the current state of trillions upon trillions of monads which exist in multiple dimensions and in multiple universes. As consciousness unfolds through the twelve levels of The Unfolding, dimensions are added as a sort of epiphenomenon (i.e., they emerge because of the peculiar state of consciousness). First there is perspective, then chance, then time, space, etc. All told there are twelve "dimensions" of existence that correspond to the twelve levels in The Unfolding. Not all of these dimensions correlate directly to physical aspects of the physical multiverse but all of them are rooted in the changing composition (state) of consciousness. Sharp's cosmology is particularly interesting because no matter how complex the universe gets, it is ultimately all an aspect or a state of the grand creator consciousness. It is also interesting because the cosmology does away, for better or worse, with traditional esoteric canon regarding "soul evolution" and replaces it with the collective alleviation of boredom. That is, it is not our purpose to advance towards God, work towards redemption, or redeem ourselves from sin. Like the artist who paints a canvas or the musician that plays a song, it is our purpose to create in an interesting and entertaining fashion.
From: John Locke on 28 Mar 2010 21:23
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 23:33:57 +0100, John Jones <jonescardiff(a)btinternet.com> wrote: >There are only two kinds of scientist. > Only one kind. Employing reason and logic, adhering to scientific procedures and not entertaining even the slightest notion of supernatural control and design. --------------------------------------------------------------- ""All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." -- Thomas Paine |