From: John Jones on
There are only two kinds of scientist.

One kind is the monkey-scientist. The monkey-scientist is noisy and
leaps from stone to branch posturing, grinning and gibbering to
onlookers, who are awestruck by this real-time display of science in action.

The other kind of scientist is the bone-rattler. The bone-rattler is
silent and shakes a rattle at dissent or inquiry. Onlookers are
impressed by this display as it reminds them of the hidden strengths of
science.
From: Mark Earnest on

"John Jones" <jonescardiff(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> There are only two kinds of scientist.
>
> One kind is the monkey-scientist. The monkey-scientist is noisy and leaps
> from stone to branch posturing, grinning and gibbering to onlookers, who
> are awestruck by this real-time display of science in action.
>
> The other kind of scientist is the bone-rattler. The bone-rattler is
> silent and shakes a rattle at dissent or inquiry. Onlookers are impressed
> by this display as it reminds them of the hidden strengths of science.

A scientist is an esteemed colleague that patronizes other scientists
in order to have the same returned to himself, with little regard
for reality.


From: omprem on
On Mar 28, 6:33 pm, John Jones <jonescard...(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
> There are only two kinds of scientist.
>
> One kind is the monkey-scientist. The monkey-scientist is noisy and
> leaps from stone to branch posturing, grinning and gibbering to
> onlookers, who are awestruck by this real-time display of science in action.
>
> The other kind of scientist is the bone-rattler. The bone-rattler is
> silent and shakes a rattle at dissent or inquiry. Onlookers are
> impressed by this display as it reminds them of the hidden strengths of
> science.

There is a third kind of scientist, a good kind of scientist, and
that is the scientist who initially uses empirical means to explore
the unknown possibilities of existence and is prepared to allow his
prejudices to be dispelled, his learning modes to be refined and
changed, and his consciousness expanded. These scientists are among
the leading astro-physicists.

Your other two types of scientist can be likened to a steward who is
content to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic while it is
sinking. They can make major changes in very minor areas. The third
kind that I mentioned can eventually know the face of God, so to
speak.
From: THE BORG on

"omprem" <omprem108(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Mar 28, 6:33 pm, John Jones <jonescard...(a)btinternet.com>
wrote:
> There are only two kinds of scientist.
>
> One kind is the monkey-scientist. The monkey-scientist is
> noisy and
> leaps from stone to branch posturing, grinning and
> gibbering to
> onlookers, who are awestruck by this real-time display of
> science in action.
>
> The other kind of scientist is the bone-rattler. The
> bone-rattler is
> silent and shakes a rattle at dissent or inquiry.
> Onlookers are
> impressed by this display as it reminds them of the hidden
> strengths of
> science.

There is a third kind of scientist, a good kind of
scientist, and
that is the scientist who initially uses empirical means to
explore
the unknown possibilities of existence and is prepared to
allow his
prejudices to be dispelled, his learning modes to be refined
and
changed, and his consciousness expanded. These scientists
are among
the leading astro-physicists.

Your other two types of scientist can be likened to a
steward who is
content to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic while it
is
sinking. They can make major changes in very minor areas.
The third
kind that I mentioned can eventually know the face of God,
so to
speak.

******
Cosmology is also interesting.
Here is a snippet on Esoteric Cosmology which is quite
enlightening.

Here in this snippet you can see that he states there is no
God, or
concept of God, no concept of sin or salvation, merely that
in eternity, it is the goal of all life to work with one
aim, and that is to alleviate boredom.

*****
Michael Sharp in The Book of Light elucidates a Kabbalistic
cosmology where "consciousness is the root" of all things
including (and perhaps especially) the physical universe and
all its dimensions. According to Sharp, consciousness
"unfolds" from the original, monadic I (the single point) to
the current state of trillions upon trillions of monads
which exist in multiple dimensions and in multiple
universes. As consciousness unfolds through the twelve
levels of The Unfolding, dimensions are added as a sort of
epiphenomenon (i.e., they emerge because of the peculiar
state of consciousness). First there is perspective, then
chance, then time, space, etc. All told there are twelve
"dimensions" of existence that correspond to the twelve
levels in The Unfolding. Not all of these dimensions
correlate directly to physical aspects of the physical
multiverse but all of them are rooted in the changing
composition (state) of consciousness.

Sharp's cosmology is particularly interesting because no
matter how complex the universe gets, it is ultimately all
an aspect or a state of the grand creator consciousness. It
is also interesting because the cosmology does away, for
better or worse, with traditional esoteric canon regarding
"soul evolution" and replaces it with the collective
alleviation of boredom. That is, it is not our purpose to
advance towards God, work towards redemption, or redeem
ourselves from sin. Like the artist who paints a canvas or
the musician that plays a song, it is our purpose to create
in an interesting and entertaining fashion.


From: John Locke on
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 23:33:57 +0100, John Jones
<jonescardiff(a)btinternet.com> wrote:

>There are only two kinds of scientist.
>
Only one kind. Employing reason and logic, adhering to scientific
procedures and not entertaining even the slightest notion of
supernatural control and design.




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