From: John Larkin on
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:40:51 -0600, krw <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

>On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:13:49 -0000, "Phil O. Sopher"
><invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Over a 40 year period of interest, I've gathered some
>>test equipment, AF Genny, RF Genny, Freq Counter, High
>>Impedance Voltmeter, Wheatstone Bridge, Oscilloscope.
>>
>>None of these is particularly small and all are at least a 6" cube.
>>
>>It seems to me that the same functionality could be achieved
>>these days with perhaps just a few inches of bench space, but,
>>would it be of any use?
>>
>>The eqpt I gathered together dates very much from the days of
>>designing circuitry with individual componenents (R, L, C, BJT)
>>and offers test and validation at that level, but nowadays we don't
>>work at that level (even op amps have been around for that 40 year
>>period).
>>
>>So, what do you have on your test bench these days, how big is it,
>>did you design it yourself, and what would you recommend to the
>>budding circuit designer of today who isn't in the industry and therefore
>>does not have access to Spice or Matlab to validate their designs?
>
>At home? Nothing, if you don't count a couple of Fluke-77s and a
>couple of HF DVMs (left visible, used as bait). I don't do
>electronics at home. I get enough in the 55 hours/week or so at work.

Agreed. I have an Extech DVM with thermocouple probe, handy for
household work and cooking, and a bench power supply, for testing
light bulbs and charging batteries. But no electronics!

John

From: George Herold on
On Nov 11, 11:40 pm, krw <k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:13:49 -0000, "Phil O. Sopher"
>
>
>
>
>
> <inva...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >Over a 40 year period of interest, I've gathered some
> >test equipment, AF Genny, RF Genny, Freq Counter, High
> >Impedance Voltmeter, Wheatstone Bridge, Oscilloscope.
>
> >None of these is particularly small and all are at least a 6" cube.
>
> >It seems to me that the same functionality could be achieved
> >these days with perhaps just a few inches of bench space, but,
> >would it be of any use?
>
> >The eqpt I gathered together dates very much from the days of
> >designing circuitry with individual componenents (R, L, C, BJT)
> >and offers test and validation at that level, but nowadays we don't
> >work at that level (even op amps have been around for that 40 year
> >period).
>
> >So, what do you have on your test bench these days, how big is it,
> >did you design it yourself, and what would you recommend to the
> >budding circuit designer of today who isn't in the industry and therefore
> >does not have access to Spice or Matlab to validate their designs?
>
> At home?  Nothing, if you don't count a couple of Fluke-77s and a
> couple of HF DVMs (left visible, used as bait).  I don't do
> electronics at home.  I get enough in the 55 hours/week or so at work.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The only times I do electronics at home is when I 'mistakenly' power
up a new PCB on Friday afternoon. Of course something doesn’t work,
and I know I’ll obsess about over the weekend. The easy solution is
to pack up pcb, scope and what ever else I’ll need and schlep it
home.

George H.
From: krw on
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:02:30 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:40:51 -0600, krw <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:13:49 -0000, "Phil O. Sopher"
>><invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>Over a 40 year period of interest, I've gathered some
>>>test equipment, AF Genny, RF Genny, Freq Counter, High
>>>Impedance Voltmeter, Wheatstone Bridge, Oscilloscope.
>>>
>>>None of these is particularly small and all are at least a 6" cube.
>>>
>>>It seems to me that the same functionality could be achieved
>>>these days with perhaps just a few inches of bench space, but,
>>>would it be of any use?
>>>
>>>The eqpt I gathered together dates very much from the days of
>>>designing circuitry with individual componenents (R, L, C, BJT)
>>>and offers test and validation at that level, but nowadays we don't
>>>work at that level (even op amps have been around for that 40 year
>>>period).
>>>
>>>So, what do you have on your test bench these days, how big is it,
>>>did you design it yourself, and what would you recommend to the
>>>budding circuit designer of today who isn't in the industry and therefore
>>>does not have access to Spice or Matlab to validate their designs?
>>
>>At home? Nothing, if you don't count a couple of Fluke-77s and a
>>couple of HF DVMs (left visible, used as bait). I don't do
>>electronics at home. I get enough in the 55 hours/week or so at work.
>
>Agreed. I have an Extech DVM with thermocouple probe, handy for
>household work and cooking, and a bench power supply, for testing
>light bulbs and charging batteries. But no electronics!

Funny. I expected flak from you. ;-)
From: krw on
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:34:49 -0800 (PST), George Herold
<ggherold(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>On Nov 11, 11:40�pm, krw <k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:13:49 -0000, "Phil O. Sopher"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <inva...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> >Over a 40 year period of interest, I've gathered some
>> >test equipment, AF Genny, RF Genny, Freq Counter, High
>> >Impedance Voltmeter, Wheatstone Bridge, Oscilloscope.
>>
>> >None of these is particularly small and all are at least a 6" cube.
>>
>> >It seems to me that the same functionality could be achieved
>> >these days with perhaps just a few inches of bench space, but,
>> >would it be of any use?
>>
>> >The eqpt I gathered together dates very much from the days of
>> >designing circuitry with individual componenents (R, L, C, BJT)
>> >and offers test and validation at that level, but nowadays we don't
>> >work at that level (even op amps have been around for that 40 year
>> >period).
>>
>> >So, what do you have on your test bench these days, how big is it,
>> >did you design it yourself, and what would you recommend to the
>> >budding circuit designer of today who isn't in the industry and therefore
>> >does not have access to Spice or Matlab to validate their designs?
>>
>> At home? �Nothing, if you don't count a couple of Fluke-77s and a
>> couple of HF DVMs (left visible, used as bait). �I don't do
>> electronics at home. �I get enough in the 55 hours/week or so at work.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>The only times I do electronics at home is when I 'mistakenly' power
>up a new PCB on Friday afternoon. Of course something doesn�t work,
>and I know I�ll obsess about over the weekend. The easy solution is
>to pack up pcb, scope and what ever else I�ll need and schlep it
>home.

If necessary I just go into work over the weekend. If there is
something that really needs to be done it's no big deal.
From: John Larkin on
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:52:25 -0600, krw <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

>On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:02:30 -0800, John Larkin
><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:40:51 -0600, krw <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:13:49 -0000, "Phil O. Sopher"
>>><invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Over a 40 year period of interest, I've gathered some
>>>>test equipment, AF Genny, RF Genny, Freq Counter, High
>>>>Impedance Voltmeter, Wheatstone Bridge, Oscilloscope.
>>>>
>>>>None of these is particularly small and all are at least a 6" cube.
>>>>
>>>>It seems to me that the same functionality could be achieved
>>>>these days with perhaps just a few inches of bench space, but,
>>>>would it be of any use?
>>>>
>>>>The eqpt I gathered together dates very much from the days of
>>>>designing circuitry with individual componenents (R, L, C, BJT)
>>>>and offers test and validation at that level, but nowadays we don't
>>>>work at that level (even op amps have been around for that 40 year
>>>>period).
>>>>
>>>>So, what do you have on your test bench these days, how big is it,
>>>>did you design it yourself, and what would you recommend to the
>>>>budding circuit designer of today who isn't in the industry and therefore
>>>>does not have access to Spice or Matlab to validate their designs?
>>>
>>>At home? Nothing, if you don't count a couple of Fluke-77s and a
>>>couple of HF DVMs (left visible, used as bait). I don't do
>>>electronics at home. I get enough in the 55 hours/week or so at work.
>>
>>Agreed. I have an Extech DVM with thermocouple probe, handy for
>>household work and cooking, and a bench power supply, for testing
>>light bulbs and charging batteries. But no electronics!
>
>Funny. I expected flak from you. ;-)

There's always LT Spice if I need an electronics fix on weekends. And
I'm only about 12 minutes from work.

I plan to build a barn behind the cabin in Truckee, and I'll probably
have a lab there, so I can play with circuits on days when skiing
conditions aren't good.

John