From: Jamie on
a7yvm109gf5d1(a)netzero.com wrote:

> On Nov 11, 10:19 am, MooseFET <kensm...(a)rahul.net> wrote:
>
>>Also you want to have a copy of the latest OpenOffice spreadsheet. It
>>can do really big ones and will import ASCII.
>
>
> While OO is great, it also has bloat and annoyances (UI gets confused
> with multiple monitors).
> You can get Gnumeric as a great stand alone spreadsheet.
You meant, COM/ACTIVEX/DCOM/OLE, correct?



From: krw on
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:15:22 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:52:25 -0600, krw <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:02:30 -0800, John Larkin
>><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:40:51 -0600, krw <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:13:49 -0000, "Phil O. Sopher"
>>>><invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Over a 40 year period of interest, I've gathered some
>>>>>test equipment, AF Genny, RF Genny, Freq Counter, High
>>>>>Impedance Voltmeter, Wheatstone Bridge, Oscilloscope.
>>>>>
>>>>>None of these is particularly small and all are at least a 6" cube.
>>>>>
>>>>>It seems to me that the same functionality could be achieved
>>>>>these days with perhaps just a few inches of bench space, but,
>>>>>would it be of any use?
>>>>>
>>>>>The eqpt I gathered together dates very much from the days of
>>>>>designing circuitry with individual componenents (R, L, C, BJT)
>>>>>and offers test and validation at that level, but nowadays we don't
>>>>>work at that level (even op amps have been around for that 40 year
>>>>>period).
>>>>>
>>>>>So, what do you have on your test bench these days, how big is it,
>>>>>did you design it yourself, and what would you recommend to the
>>>>>budding circuit designer of today who isn't in the industry and therefore
>>>>>does not have access to Spice or Matlab to validate their designs?
>>>>
>>>>At home? Nothing, if you don't count a couple of Fluke-77s and a
>>>>couple of HF DVMs (left visible, used as bait). I don't do
>>>>electronics at home. I get enough in the 55 hours/week or so at work.
>>>
>>>Agreed. I have an Extech DVM with thermocouple probe, handy for
>>>household work and cooking, and a bench power supply, for testing
>>>light bulbs and charging batteries. But no electronics!
>>
>>Funny. I expected flak from you. ;-)
>
>There's always LT Spice if I need an electronics fix on weekends. And
>I'm only about 12 minutes from work.

I have the FPGA tools from the various manufacturers[*] loaded on my
laptop but I've never used them in anger. I'm 13 miles, half
interstate.

>I plan to build a barn behind the cabin in Truckee, and I'll probably
>have a lab there, so I can play with circuits on days when skiing
>conditions aren't good.

Isn't that the time to read a book by the fire?


[*] Yikes, are the FPGA sales types hungry! I'm getting calls every
day from the four vendors.
From: Pieyed Piper on
I put one of these in about every other rack.

http://www.home.agilent.com/upload/cmc_upload/E4440A_800x583.jpg

About once a week. 26GHz
From: George Herold on
On Nov 12, 7:53 pm, krw <k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:34:49 -0800 (PST), George Herold
>
>
>
>
>
> <ggher...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Nov 11, 11:40 pm, krw <k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:13:49 -0000, "Phil O. Sopher"
>
> >> <inva...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >> >Over a 40 year period of interest, I've gathered some
> >> >test equipment, AF Genny, RF Genny, Freq Counter, High
> >> >Impedance Voltmeter, Wheatstone Bridge, Oscilloscope.
>
> >> >None of these is particularly small and all are at least a 6" cube.
>
> >> >It seems to me that the same functionality could be achieved
> >> >these days with perhaps just a few inches of bench space, but,
> >> >would it be of any use?
>
> >> >The eqpt I gathered together dates very much from the days of
> >> >designing circuitry with individual componenents (R, L, C, BJT)
> >> >and offers test and validation at that level, but nowadays we don't
> >> >work at that level (even op amps have been around for that 40 year
> >> >period).
>
> >> >So, what do you have on your test bench these days, how big is it,
> >> >did you design it yourself, and what would you recommend to the
> >> >budding circuit designer of today who isn't in the industry and therefore
> >> >does not have access to Spice or Matlab to validate their designs?
>
> >> At home?  Nothing, if you don't count a couple of Fluke-77s and a
> >> couple of HF DVMs (left visible, used as bait).  I don't do
> >> electronics at home.  I get enough in the 55 hours/week or so at work.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >The only times I do electronics at home is when I 'mistakenly' power
> >up a new PCB on Friday afternoon.  Of course something doesn’t work,
> >and I know I’ll obsess about over the weekend.  The easy solution is
> >to pack up pcb, scope and what ever else I’ll need and schlep it
> >home.
>
> If necessary I just go into work over the weekend.  If there is
> something that really needs to be done it's no big deal.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I live out in the sticks. Once I get home for the weekend I really
don't like going back in... of course if it's important.

George H.
From: George Herold on
On Nov 12, 8:15 pm, John Larkin
<jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:52:25 -0600, krw <k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
> >On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:02:30 -0800, John Larkin
> ><jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>
> >>On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:40:51 -0600, krw <k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
>
> >>>On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:13:49 -0000, "Phil O. Sopher"
> >>><inva...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> >>>>Over a 40 year period of interest, I've gathered some
> >>>>test equipment, AF Genny, RF Genny, Freq Counter, High
> >>>>Impedance Voltmeter, Wheatstone Bridge, Oscilloscope.
>
> >>>>None of these is particularly small and all are at least a 6" cube.
>
> >>>>It seems to me that the same functionality could be achieved
> >>>>these days with perhaps just a few inches of bench space, but,
> >>>>would it be of any use?
>
> >>>>The eqpt I gathered together dates very much from the days of
> >>>>designing circuitry with individual componenents (R, L, C, BJT)
> >>>>and offers test and validation at that level, but nowadays we don't
> >>>>work at that level (even op amps have been around for that 40 year
> >>>>period).
>
> >>>>So, what do you have on your test bench these days, how big is it,
> >>>>did you design it yourself, and what would you recommend to the
> >>>>budding circuit designer of today who isn't in the industry and therefore
> >>>>does not have access to Spice or Matlab to validate their designs?
>
> >>>At home?  Nothing, if you don't count a couple of Fluke-77s and a
> >>>couple of HF DVMs (left visible, used as bait).  I don't do
> >>>electronics at home.  I get enough in the 55 hours/week or so at work.
>
> >>Agreed. I have an Extech DVM with thermocouple probe, handy for
> >>household work and cooking, and a bench power supply, for testing
> >>light bulbs and charging batteries. But no electronics!
>
> >Funny.  I expected flak from you.  ;-)
>
> There's always LT Spice if I need an electronics fix on weekends. And
> I'm only about 12 minutes from work.
>
> I plan to build a barn behind the cabin in Truckee, and I'll probably
> have a lab there, so I can play with circuits on days when skiing
> conditions aren't good.
>
> John- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Hmm, 45 minute's away. Of course there's 30 acres of land, half woods
and a beautiful stream and gorge behind the house. I think my
favorite thing is to take a notebook down to the stream and scribble
thoughts of the day.

George H.