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From: Benedolfus on 9 Aug 2010 19:29 Op 09-08-10 00:06, Bear Bottoms schreef: > My man, don't you have the program stealer Wine? > Don't know of such program stealer, but could you answer the question, does it run under Linux?
From: Benedolfus on 9 Aug 2010 19:30 Op 09-08-10 02:02, Bear Bottoms schreef: > So you are accusing Matt to be a thief? I see a difference when someone > develops a program for an operating system, and someone who develops a > program to run another operating systems software. So you are saying Wine > is the thief! > What would you consider VMware to be?
From: za kAT on 9 Aug 2010 20:32 On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 00:19:41 +0000 (UTC), Bear Bottoms wrote: >> What would you consider VMware to be? >> > If it is anything like Wine...I would say ditto. I'd say tomato > I don't use VMware and > for your information, MS didn't write it to my knowledge. Such wisdom and such > Wine is written by and supported by the developers of the Linux OS. For your information <fanfare> "Approximately half of Wine's source code is written by volunteers. The rest is sponsored by commercial interests, especially Codeweavers who sell a supported version of Wine." -- zakAT(a)pooh.the.cat - Sergeant Tech-Com, DN38416. Assigned to protect you. You've been targeted for denigration!
From: B℮ar Bottoms on 9 Aug 2010 20:35 On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 01:32:46 +0100, za kAT wrote: On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 00:19:41 +0000 (UTC), Bear Bottoms wrote: >> Wine is written by and supported by the developers of the Linux OS. > > For your information <fanfare> > > "Approximately half of Wine's source code is written by volunteers. The > rest is sponsored by commercial interests, especially Codeweavers who sell > a supported version of Wine." Drat, and double drat. I'm wrong, wrong, wrong... again <sigh> -- B℮ar Bottoms Proud p0wner of Googleware
From: B. R. 'BeAr' Ederson on 10 Aug 2010 01:29
On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 22:06:24 +0000 (UTC), Bear Bottoms wrote: [Wintestgear: MSSQL.SchemaDiff, MSSQL.DataMask, FileTouch, TCMLite] To answer the question in the subject of your OP: Apart from FileTouch, which is available in uncountable flavors, already, and can be put to use for file date/time modification by any computer user, the other programs are specialized tools for database admins (the MSSQL* ones) and programmers (test case manager lite). If you don't know, how to use them, you probably don't need them. I've been using a couple of Wintestgear programs for years as needed. (Most of them can be found in the "Retired" section.) They are useful and fulfill their tasks without much distraction. TCMLite I considered for a project a couple of years ago, but settled with a self-written solution. >> Do they run on Linux? > > My man, don't you have the program stealer Wine? Old wrong, derogatory denotations don't become right, eventually. We went through this, before: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.freeware/msg/b350ee87e100b476 | On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:24:14 +0000 (UTC), Bear Bottoms wrote: [...] | > If Linux wants to develop a software stealing program like Wine, to run | > another operating systems software, they should inform users that it is | > potentially stealing and they should check the requirements from the | > developer. I would think Linux would be best served using software that | > was developed for Linux, not steal software from other operating systems. | | In addition to direct re-compilation, use of pre-build libraries or | subsystems like MingW and Cygwin, which have been available for years to | enable *nix programs running on Windows, there has been a Posix layer | provided by MS for this task for all NT based OS versions. First as part | of the OS (Microsoft POSIX subsystem), later on as separate download | (Microsoft Windows Services for UNIX). | | The usage of the term "stealing" in this context is some kind of wicked | propaganda, I wouldn't even expect from MS. Cross-system portability is | a natural development. Applications are written to fulfill certain tasks. | Operating systems are written to provide the environment for Applications | to run. If both layers don't fit together, either one ore both are | adjusted, until everything works well. Or another layer (maybe from third | party programmers) will be inserted to enable correct interoperability. | | > If a software developer develops a software for multiple operating | > systems, fine, multiple operating systems can use it. | | If you take this further, every programmer would have to write an own | /complete/ set of libraries. Or maybe even an own OS version... | | Applications are written to fulfill tasks. One user gets the work done, | running a program on Windows. Another uses Linux and Wine as environment. | (Or uses a native Linux program, that a third user runs with CygWin in | Windows...) BeAr -- =========================================================================== = What do you mean with: "Perfection is always an illusion"? = ===============================================================--(Oops!)=== |