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From: Neil Harrington on 14 Nov 2009 10:03 "Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message news:2009111401130782327-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom... > > It seems we left our history far behind. Have you ever noticed where the > good old Wells Fargo stage coach driver sat, ...on the right, shotgun on > the left. Apparently that was the standard arrangement for all horse and buggy drivers too. (Going by the movies, anyway.) And it's still the standard position for whoever's steering a power boat. At least some of the earliest American automobiles had right-hand drive also. Now I'm wondering where and why left-hand drive got started. Perhaps it was because the gearshift was centrally located, and it's more natural to work that with the dominant hand, which for 90% of people is the right one.
From: Neil Harrington on 14 Nov 2009 10:05 "Wilba" <usenet(a)CUTTHISimago.com.au> wrote in message news:030e9041$0$1347$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > Savageduck wrote: >> Savageduck said: >>> Wilba said: >>>> Savageduck wrote: >>>>> Wilba said: >>>>>> >>>>>> Years ago I read that left-hand drive is safer overall, because when >>>>>> a >>>>>> person is startled they tend to raise their non-dominant hand to >>>>>> protect >>>>>> their head. If at the time they are steering a car on the left of the >>>>>> road, 9 out of 10 will therefore sverve into oncoming traffic. >>>>>> Apparently the effect is statistically significant. >>>>> >>>>> It seems we left our history far behind. Have you ever noticed where >>>>> the >>>>> good old Wells Fargo stage coach driver sat, ...on the right, shotgun >>>>> on >>>>> the left. >>>> >>>> Don't see many of them 'round these here parts. :- ) >>> >>> Note the driver on the left. >>> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/Concord_stagecoach_1869.png >> >> Sorry, that was the right, the shot gun was on the left. >> Now I don't know my left from my right! > > I worked that out. :- ) > > I wonder why they did it that way, since the driver is on the ejector > side...? Not for a double-barreled shotgun. > Maybe the convention pre-dates the widespread use of repeating rifles. Yep. I presume "shotgun" literally meant a shotgun.
From: Savageduck on 14 Nov 2009 10:31 On 2009-11-14 06:58:27 -0800, George Kerby <ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> said: > > > > On 11/14/09 4:55 AM, in article > 2009111402550242612-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom, "Savageduck" > <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote: > >> On 2009-11-14 02:53:09 -0800, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> >> said: >> >>> On 2009-11-14 02:30:45 -0800, "Wilba" <usenet(a)CUTTHISimago.com.au> said: >>> >>>> Savageduck wrote: >>>>> Wilba said: >>>>>> >>>>>> Years ago I read that left-hand drive is safer overall, because when a >>>>>> person is startled they tend to raise their non-dominant hand to protect >>>>>> their head. If at the time they are steering a car on the left of the >>>>>> road, >>>>>> 9 out of 10 will therefore sverve into oncoming traffic. Apparently the >>>>>> effect is statistically significant. >>>>> >>>>> It seems we left our history far behind. Have you ever noticed where the >>>>> good old Wells Fargo stage coach driver sat, ...on the right, shotgun on >>>>> the left. >>>> >>>> Don't see many of them 'round these here parts. :- ) >>> >>> Note the driver on the left. >>> > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/Concord_stagecoach_1869.pn>> > g >> >> Sorry, that was the right, the shot gun was on the left. >> Now I don't know my left from my right! > The negative was flopped...? Aah! The Billy The Kid, left hand gun paradox. -- Regards, Savageduck
From: Neil Harrington on 14 Nov 2009 13:03 "Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message news:2009111407313133169-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom... > On 2009-11-14 06:58:27 -0800, George Kerby <ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> > said: > >> >> >> >> On 11/14/09 4:55 AM, in article >> 2009111402550242612-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom, "Savageduck" >> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote: >> >>> On 2009-11-14 02:53:09 -0800, Savageduck >>> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> >>> said: >>> >>>> On 2009-11-14 02:30:45 -0800, "Wilba" <usenet(a)CUTTHISimago.com.au> >>>> said: >>>> >>>>> Savageduck wrote: >>>>>> Wilba said: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Years ago I read that left-hand drive is safer overall, because when >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> person is startled they tend to raise their non-dominant hand to >>>>>>> protect >>>>>>> their head. If at the time they are steering a car on the left of >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> road, >>>>>>> 9 out of 10 will therefore sverve into oncoming traffic. Apparently >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> effect is statistically significant. >>>>>> >>>>>> It seems we left our history far behind. Have you ever noticed where >>>>>> the >>>>>> good old Wells Fargo stage coach driver sat, ...on the right, shotgun >>>>>> on >>>>>> the left. >>>>> >>>>> Don't see many of them 'round these here parts. :- ) >>>> >>>> Note the driver on the left. >>>> >> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/Concord_stagecoach_1869.pn>> >> g >>> >>> Sorry, that was the right, the shot gun was on the left. >>> Now I don't know my left from my right! >> The negative was flopped...? > > Aah! The Billy The Kid, left hand gun paradox. Yep. To this day, many (probably most) people still believe that Henry "Billy the Kid" McCarty was left-handed. One of the movies about him, "The Left Handed Gun," has surely contributed to that falsehood.
From: Savageduck on 14 Nov 2009 13:44
On 2009-11-14 10:03:45 -0800, "Neil Harrington" <secret(a)illumnati.net> said: > > "Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message > news:2009111407313133169-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom... >> On 2009-11-14 06:58:27 -0800, George Kerby <ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> >> said: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11/14/09 4:55 AM, in article >>> 2009111402550242612-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom, "Savageduck" >>> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2009-11-14 02:53:09 -0800, Savageduck >>>> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> >>>> said: >>>> >>>>> On 2009-11-14 02:30:45 -0800, "Wilba" <usenet(a)CUTTHISimago.com.au> >>>>> said: >>>>> >>>>>> Savageduck wrote: >>>>>>> Wilba said: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Years ago I read that left-hand drive is safer overall, because when >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> person is startled they tend to raise their non-dominant hand to >>>>>>>> protect >>>>>>>> their head. If at the time they are steering a car on the left of >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> road, >>>>>>>> 9 out of 10 will therefore sverve into oncoming traffic. Apparently >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> effect is statistically significant. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It seems we left our history far behind. Have you ever noticed where >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> good old Wells Fargo stage coach driver sat, ...on the right, shotgun >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> the left. >>>>>> >>>>>> Don't see many of them 'round these here parts. :- ) >>>>> >>>>> Note the driver on the left. >>>>> >>> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/Concord_stagecoach_1869.pn>> >>> g >>>> >>>> Sorry, that was the right, the shot gun was on the left. >>>> Now I don't know my left from my right! >>> The negative was flopped...? >> >> Aah! The Billy The Kid, left hand gun paradox. > > Yep. To this day, many (probably most) people still believe that Henry > "Billy the Kid" McCarty was left-handed. One of the movies about him, "The > Left Handed Gun," has surely contributed to that falsehood. Well here is a photo of a stagecoach, driven from the right, and with the type on the coach correct and not mirror imaged. http://www.old-picture.com/old-west/pictures/Stagecoach-Western.jpg and anothers of what seems to be of great character drivers (on the right) http://www.legendsofamerica.com/photos-oldwest/Deadwood%20stagecoach.jpg http://www.owensvalleyhistory.com/cerro_gordo2/stage_coach.jpg -- Regards, Savageduck |