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From: Pavel A. on 6 May 2010 18:45 Dear users of msnews.microsoft.com, There are rumors that Microsoft plans to shut down this nntp server. See this for example: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-20004109-56.html Any thoughts on where we can migrate from here - besides of the web-based MSDN forums?. To Google groups, maybe? Regards, -- pa
From: Maxim S. Shatskih on 6 May 2010 18:58 > Any thoughts on where we can migrate from here - besides of the web-based > MSDN forums?. Windows kernel people - to OSR's forums, surely. -- Maxim S. Shatskih Windows DDK MVP maxim(a)storagecraft.com http://www.storagecraft.com
From: Hector Santos on 6 May 2010 22:56 Pavel A. wrote: > Dear users of msnews.microsoft.com, > > There are rumors that Microsoft plans to shut down this nntp server. > > See this for example: > http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-20004109-56.html > > Any thoughts on where we can migrate from here - besides of the > web-based MSDN forums?. > To Google groups, maybe? > > Regards, > -- pa Technically what Microsoft is stopping is the Microsoft.* newsgroups in lieu of new forums style messages which can also be exposed as "locally published" newsgroups. As "Forums Newsgroups," you can download the MS NNTP Bridge http://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums that will allow you to continue to use your favorite desktop news reader to access the Microsoft Forums Newsgroups. It actually works pretty well. Not all the old newsgroup "names" are available in the MS forums. There is the kernel one: Microsoft.en-US.kernel I'm sure in time that other providers will use the MS NNTP Bridge with NNTP gating software to mirror the MS Forums on their own NNTP servers as newsgroups. Its leaves us to wonder what will happen to the old mirrors, i.e. Google Groups. That probably depends if Microsoft will allow or not their name sake and branding to continue to be used as newsgroup names run by 3rd party servers. Maybe they don't care, maybe they don't realize they will care once its highly abused more than it is now where there was filtering going on, but no longer. :) -- HLS
From: Lem on 7 May 2010 01:12 Hector Santos wrote: > Pavel A. wrote: > >> Dear users of msnews.microsoft.com, >> >> There are rumors that Microsoft plans to shut down this nntp server. >> >> See this for example: >> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-20004109-56.html >> >> Any thoughts on where we can migrate from here - besides of the >> web-based MSDN forums?. >> To Google groups, maybe? >> >> Regards, >> -- pa > > > Technically what Microsoft is stopping is the Microsoft.* newsgroups in > lieu of new forums style messages which can also be exposed as "locally > published" newsgroups. > > As "Forums Newsgroups," you can download the MS NNTP Bridge > > http://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums > > that will allow you to continue to use your favorite desktop news reader > to access the Microsoft Forums Newsgroups. > > It actually works pretty well. Not all the old newsgroup "names" are > available in the MS forums. There is the kernel one: > > Microsoft.en-US.kernel > > I'm sure in time that other providers will use the MS NNTP Bridge with > NNTP gating software to mirror the MS Forums on their own NNTP servers > as newsgroups. > > Its leaves us to wonder what will happen to the old mirrors, i.e. Google > Groups. That probably depends if Microsoft will allow or not their name > sake and branding to continue to be used as newsgroup names run by 3rd > party servers. Maybe they don't care, maybe they don't realize they > will care once its highly abused more than it is now where there was > filtering going on, but no longer. :) > I wouldn't go so far as to say that the nntp bridge "works pretty well." At least on T'Bird 2.x, the headers and bodies occasionally become unsynced and the unread message indicator is unreliable. -- Lem Apollo 11 - 40 years ago: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/40th/index.html
From: Jochen Kalmbach [MVP] on 7 May 2010 02:55
Hi Pavel! > Any thoughts on where we can migrate from here - besides of the > web-based MSDN forums?. Why not just stay here? You only need to use a different news-server than news.microsoft.com. But the group will still exist in the future. And the groups will still be peered to other news-servers. NNTP is a peer-to-peer system, so the down of news.microsoft.com will not matter. So just change your news-provider and everything will work as today. -- Greetings Jochen My blog about Win32 and .NET http://blog.kalmbachnet.de/ |