From: Jim Thompson on
Here's a white LED Spice model that I created by fitting to data
points of a real device. Unfortunately I've misplaced which actual
device number it was :-(

******************************************************************
**** My White LED ****
..SUBCKT MyWhiteLED A K
D_D1 N_1 0 D1N4148
F_F1 N_3 K VF_F1 1
VF_F1 N_2 N_1 0V
E_E1 N_2 0 N_3 K 0.228
R_R1 A N_3 5
..ENDS MyWhiteLED
******************************************************************

Schematic and PSpice simulation results at...

Newsgroups: alt.binaries.schematics.electronic

Message-ID: <qo41l5llt9mtna5bepi6facrf03p4p7l7s(a)4ax.com>

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From: Jim Thompson on
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 09:23:10 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com/Snicker> wrote:

>Here's a white LED Spice model that I created by fitting to data
>points of a real device. Unfortunately I've misplaced which actual
>device number it was :-(
>
>******************************************************************
>**** My White LED ****
>.SUBCKT MyWhiteLED A K
>D_D1 N_1 0 D1N4148
>F_F1 N_3 K VF_F1 1
>VF_F1 N_2 N_1 0V
>E_E1 N_2 0 N_3 K 0.228
>R_R1 A N_3 5
>.ENDS MyWhiteLED
>******************************************************************
>
>Schematic and PSpice simulation results at...
>
>Newsgroups: alt.binaries.schematics.electronic
>
>Message-ID: <qo41l5llt9mtna5bepi6facrf03p4p7l7s(a)4ax.com>
>
> ...Jim Thompson

If you have data points for other LED's... measure VF at many currents
(*)... PULSED to avoid heating, send the data to me and I'll make a
model for them.

(*) Measure VF at IF = 0.1mA 0.2mA 0.5mA 1mA 2mA 5mA 10mA 20mA 50mA

...Jim Thompson
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| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
From: Paul Hovnanian P.E. on
I found my old HP-41C curve fit program card. Then I found my old
HP-41C.

The model I get from your curve is:

..MODEL MyWhiteLED D
+ IS = 4.4249E-9
+ N = 8.3923
+ RS = 7.7980

No subcircuits required.

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From: Jon Kirwan on
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:28:57 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
<Paul(a)Hovnanian.com> wrote:

>I found my old HP-41C curve fit program card. Then I found my old
>HP-41C.
>
>The model I get from your curve is:
>
>.MODEL MyWhiteLED D
>+ IS = 4.4249E-9
>+ N = 8.3923
>+ RS = 7.7980
>
>No subcircuits required.

That N looks frightening.

Jon
From: Paul Hovnanian P.E. on
Jon Kirwan wrote:
>
> On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:28:57 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
> <Paul(a)Hovnanian.com> wrote:
>
> >I found my old HP-41C curve fit program card. Then I found my old
> >HP-41C.
> >
> >The model I get from your curve is:
> >
> >.MODEL MyWhiteLED D
> >+ IS = 4.4249E-9
> >+ N = 8.3923
> >+ RS = 7.7980
> >
> >No subcircuits required.
>
> That N looks frightening.

Yes, but it seems to work for the white LED (probably a blue LED) curve.
I haven't gotten into the physics of the problem, but the emmission
coefficient (N) seems to track the band gap of the junction involved. So
this isn't as bizarre as it appears.

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