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From: Michael Jackson on 15 Apr 2010 18:40 Good for you for getting a response from the controller! As I stated a few days ago, all of my attempts to communicate with the MLM controller from my Gmail account failed. I have yet to run the script. This should be interesting... -- Michael Jackson http://mjijackson.com/ @mjijackson On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Walton Hoops <walton(a)vyper.hopto.org> wrote: > On 4/15/2010 11:27 AM, Walton Hoops wrote: >> On 4/15/2010 10:57 AM, Tony Arcieri wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Walton Hoops <walton(a)vyper.hopto.org>wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Actually, all that will do is cause the user to get a confirmation >>>> e-mail asking if they really want to unsubscribe. I suppose it could >>>> lead to some annoying spam, but I hardly think it's a critical security >>>> bug. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> That's what a secure MLM would do. The ruby-talk one does not. If you >>> don't believe me I can run it against your email address. >>> >>> >>> >> Go ahead, I already did. >> >> > Hmm... just a moment ago I got this e-mail: > > On 4/15/2010 11:50 AM, ruby-talk-admin(a)ruby-lang.org wrote: >> unsubscribe >> >> unsubscribe-confirm 2010041602504610836465093473 walton vyper.hopto.org >> >> Please reply this mail to confirm your unsubscribe request >> and send this to ruby-talk-ctl(a)ruby-lang.org >> If confirmed, you are removed from MAILING LIST <ruby-talk(a)ruby-lang.org>. >> >> --ruby-talk(a)ruby-lang.org, Be Seeing You! >> >> ************************************************************ >> >> Help: <mailto:ruby-talk-ctl(a)ruby-lang.org?body=help> >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:ruby-talk-ctl(a)ruby-lang.org?body=unsubscribe> >> >> If you have any questions or problems, >> please contact ruby-talk-admin(a)ruby-lang.org >> or >> send e-mail with the body "help"(without quotes) to >> ruby-talk-ctl(a)ruby-lang.org >> (here is the automatic reply, so more preferable) >> >> e.g. on a Unix Machine >> (shell prompt)% echo "help" |Mail ruby-talk-ctl(a)ruby-lang.org >> >> ************************************************************ >> >> > I wonder how that could have happened ;-) > >
From: Tony Arcieri on 15 Apr 2010 18:53 [Note: parts of this message were removed to make it a legal post.] For what it's worth, here's the response I got after doing the same thing I did to Walton. There was no confirmation process, so either something is different with how we're subscribed, or something changed recently: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <ruby-talk-admin(a)ruby-lang.org> Date: Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:56 PM Subject: fml Command Status report (ruby-talk ML) To: tony.arcieri(a)medioh.com >>> unsubscribe set UNSUBSCRIBE => BYE BYE [tony.arcieri(a)medioh.com] accepted. change member and recipient lists --ruby-talk(a)ruby-lang.org, Be Seeing You! ************************************************************ Help: <mailto:ruby-talk-ctl(a)ruby-lang.org?body=help> Unsubscribe: <mailto:ruby-talk-ctl(a)ruby-lang.org?body=unsubscribe> If you have any questions or problems, please contact ruby-talk-admin(a)ruby-lang.org or send e-mail with the body "help"(without quotes) to ruby-talk-ctl(a)ruby-lang.org (here is the automatic reply, so more preferable) e.g. on a Unix Machine (shell prompt)% echo "help" |Mail ruby-talk-ctl(a)ruby-lang.org ************************************************************ On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Michael Jackson <mjijackson(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Good for you for getting a response from the controller! As I stated a > few days ago, all of my attempts to communicate with the MLM > controller from my Gmail account failed. I have yet to run the script. > This should be interesting... > > -- > Michael Jackson > http://mjijackson.com/ > @mjijackson > > > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Walton Hoops <walton(a)vyper.hopto.org> > wrote: > > On 4/15/2010 11:27 AM, Walton Hoops wrote: > >> On 4/15/2010 10:57 AM, Tony Arcieri wrote: > >> > >>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Walton Hoops <walton(a)vyper.hopto.org > >wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Actually, all that will do is cause the user to get a confirmation > >>>> e-mail asking if they really want to unsubscribe. I suppose it could > >>>> lead to some annoying spam, but I hardly think it's a critical > security > >>>> bug. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> That's what a secure MLM would do. The ruby-talk one does not. If you > >>> don't believe me I can run it against your email address. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> Go ahead, I already did. > >> > >> > > Hmm... just a moment ago I got this e-mail: > > > > On 4/15/2010 11:50 AM, ruby-talk-admin(a)ruby-lang.org wrote: > >> unsubscribe > >> > >> unsubscribe-confirm 2010041602504610836465093473 walton vyper.hopto.org > >> > >> Please reply this mail to confirm your unsubscribe request > >> and send this to ruby-talk-ctl(a)ruby-lang.org > >> If confirmed, you are removed from MAILING LIST < > ruby-talk(a)ruby-lang.org>. > >> > >> --ruby-talk(a)ruby-lang.org, Be Seeing You! > >> > >> ************************************************************ > >> > >> Help: <mailto:ruby-talk-ctl(a)ruby-lang.org?body=help> > >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:ruby-talk-ctl(a)ruby-lang.org?body=unsubscribe> > >> > >> If you have any questions or problems, > >> please contact ruby-talk-admin(a)ruby-lang.org > >> or > >> send e-mail with the body "help"(without quotes) to > >> ruby-talk-ctl(a)ruby-lang.org > >> (here is the automatic reply, so more preferable) > >> > >> e.g. on a Unix Machine > >> (shell prompt)% echo "help" |Mail ruby-talk-ctl(a)ruby-lang.org > >> > >> ************************************************************ > >> > >> > > I wonder how that could have happened ;-) > > > > > > -- Tony Arcieri Medioh! A Kudelski Brand
From: James Britt on 15 Apr 2010 20:08 Walton Hoops wrote: >> > I wonder how that could have happened ;-) > > Moderator! Ban this person for relentless smart-assitude! :) BTW, thanks for testing that out. -- James Britt www.jamesbritt.com - Playing with Better Toys www.ruby-doc.org - Ruby Help & Documentation www.rubystuff.com - The Ruby Store for Ruby Stuff www.neurogami.com - Smart application development
From: Oddmund =?utf-8?Q?Str=C3=B8mme?= on 15 Apr 2010 21:12 Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri(a)medioh.com> writes: > Hi, yes, you got it right. I read ruby-talk via e-mail. Given my present > method of reading ruby-talk (via Gmail) it's been extremely distracting and > hindered my ability to read other mailing lists. I use Gmail's multiple > inbox feature to filter out mailing lists I'm subscribed to, and "high > traffic" threads get priority, even if it's the same person sending dozens > of messages to a single thread. > > Perhaps the method by which you read ruby-talk differs, but given my present > mode of reading the list, thunk threads are eating up valuable second-inbox > space. You are aware of GMail's 'mute conversation' functionality, yes? -- oddmund
From: Tony Arcieri on 15 Apr 2010 23:10
Yes, unfortunately that doesn't seem to work correctly with the multiple inboxes feature. 2010/4/15 Oddmund Strømme <oddmund(a)oddmundo.com> > Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri(a)medioh.com> writes: > > > Hi, yes, you got it right. I read ruby-talk via e-mail. Given my > present > > method of reading ruby-talk (via Gmail) it's been extremely distracting > and > > hindered my ability to read other mailing lists. I use Gmail's multiple > > inbox feature to filter out mailing lists I'm subscribed to, and "high > > traffic" threads get priority, even if it's the same person sending > dozens > > of messages to a single thread. > > > > Perhaps the method by which you read ruby-talk differs, but given my > present > > mode of reading the list, thunk threads are eating up valuable > second-inbox > > space. > > You are aware of GMail's mute conversation functionality, yes? > > -- > oddmund > > -- Tony Arcieri Medioh! A Kudelski Brand |