From: Tony Arcieri on
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On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Josh Cheek <josh.cheek(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> Unless things got completely unusable, I'd much prefer if there wasn't
> someone with the power to kick people off the list


For what it's worth, I've considered unsubscribing due to the high volume of
off-topic email.

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Tony Arcieri
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From: Josh Cheek on
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On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Dylan Northrup <docx(a)io.com> wrote:

> It's gotten to an unusable space for me. I regularly delete all messages
> after scanning the subjects without reading them. Up until approximately a
> month ago I would actually read the majority of the posts to see what is
> posted as well as learn from example code posted by others. But given the
> recent spate of off-topic garbage the list has pretty much become unusable.
>
> I'm hopeful that something will change and the spammers/off-topic posts
> will
> go elsewhere, but would very much appreciate being able to have someone
> step
> in to stop the madness.
>

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri(a)medioh.com>wrote:

> For what it's worth, I've considered unsubscribing due to the high volume
> of
> off-topic email.
>

Perhaps I've missed something, I thought this was a reaction to Thunk, but
he only posts in a few threads.

I notice you both have email addresses from hosts I'm not familiar with,
perhaps they don't group posts into threads, so you get hit with about ten
times as many messages as I do. That would be frustrating.

I still don't personally support moderation, but if most of the list does,
then we should see what options we have.

From: Andrea Dallera on
While the thunk phase's been pretty annoying it looks like now it's
over. I suggest to wait a month or so and see if things get better: if
not, then I'm all into taking actions against spam and OT.

My 2c,

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On Thu, 2010-04-15 at 01:15 +0900, Tony Arcieri wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Josh Cheek <josh.cheek(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Unless things got completely unusable, I'd much prefer if there wasn't
> > someone with the power to kick people off the list
>
>
> For what it's worth, I've considered unsubscribing due to the high volume of
> off-topic email.
>


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From: Michael Jackson [mailto:mjijackson(a)gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 4:31 PM
To: ruby-talk ML
Subject: Re: Who maintains ruby-talk?

Just last week I was having problems managing my subscription via the
list controller. When I tried the "manual way"
(http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/community/mailing-lists/manual-instructions
/)
I couldn't get the bot to respond either. As a last resort I emailed
the human administrator address (ruby-talk-admin(a)ruby-lang.org) and
got a response from Matz himself.

Perhaps that's the problem. The list is being maintained by a person
who most assuredly doesn't have time for it because he has much more
important things to do!

Michael

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On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:39 AM, Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri(a)medioh.com>
wrote:
> Among other things, the ruby-talk MLM is rampant with security
> vulnerabilities, and in need of moderation.
>
> Is there actually a person in charge of ruby-talk?
>
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> Tony Arcieri
> Medioh! A Kudelski Brand
>

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From: Seebs on
On 2010-04-14, Josh Cheek <josh.cheek(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Unless things got completely unusable, I'd much prefer if there wasn't
> someone with the power to kick people off the list whenever the whim struck
> them. Between spam filters and community policing, I think this list is
> fine.

Remember to distinguish between "power" and "authority".

Right now, someone, somewhere, has the power to kick people off the list.
The list runs somewhere; someone has the keys to that computer, and can
modify anything on it.

Realistically, you can either have some kind of moderation, or offer a free
spam reflector service complete with malware delivery. I'd recommend
the former.

-s
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