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From: Val Hallah on 31 May 2010 02:45
On May 30, 9:30 pm, DanP <dan.pe...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 30, 6:59 pm, Val Hallah <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 30, 5:58 pm, RichA <rander3...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Perfect example.  Guy shoots a Panasonic GH1 hand-held at 1/3 sec and
> > > f16 and wonders why his shots aren't sharp.  P&S's are weaned on
> > > cameras that have infinite DOF and limited apertures (often don't
> > > close down to lower than f6.3) so to them, the discipline needed to
> > > shoot a DSLR or EVIL camera is alien.
>
> > >http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1041&message=35451698`
>
> > he needed one of these
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/40732837(a)N07/4628023291/
>
> Is that at maximum zoom?
>
> DanP

yes
From: Val Hallah on 31 May 2010 02:45
On May 31, 12:42 am, RichA <rander3...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 30, 1:59 pm, Val Hallah <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 30, 5:58 pm, RichA <rander3...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Perfect example.  Guy shoots a Panasonic GH1 hand-held at 1/3 sec and
> > > f16 and wonders why his shots aren't sharp.  P&S's are weaned on
> > > cameras that have infinite DOF and limited apertures (often don't
> > > close down to lower than f6.3) so to them, the discipline needed to
> > > shoot a DSLR or EVIL camera is alien.
>
> > >http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1041&message=35451698
>
> > he needed one of these
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/40732837(a)N07/4628023291/
>
> Here's one with the camera (well, the G1, GH1 with lesser sensor) he
> couldn't get a sharp shot with and a long lens.
>
> http://www.pbase.com/andersonrm/image/116038333/original

how much did that lens cost ;?)
From: Pete D on 31 May 2010 03:06

"RichA" <rander3127(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:faf80332-02f0-4baa-82c1-b5976b80f80a(a)o12g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
On May 30, 1:59 pm, Val Hallah <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 30, 5:58 pm, RichA <rander3...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Perfect example. Guy shoots a Panasonic GH1 hand-held at 1/3 sec and
> > f16 and wonders why his shots aren't sharp. P&S's are weaned on
> > cameras that have infinite DOF and limited apertures (often don't
> > close down to lower than f6.3) so to them, the discipline needed to
> > shoot a DSLR or EVIL camera is alien.
>
> >http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1041&message=35451698
>
> he needed one of these
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/40732837(a)N07/4628023291/

Here's one with the camera (well, the G1, GH1 with lesser sensor) he
couldn't get a sharp shot with and a long lens.

http://www.pbase.com/andersonrm/image/116038333/original


At F1.0, yeah sure it was, what else is faked??


From: DanP on 31 May 2010 07:58
On 31 May, 07:45, Val Hallah <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 30, 9:30 pm, DanP <dan.pe...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 30, 6:59 pm, Val Hallah <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 30, 5:58 pm, RichA <rander3...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Perfect example.  Guy shoots a Panasonic GH1 hand-held at 1/3 sec and
> > > > f16 and wonders why his shots aren't sharp.  P&S's are weaned on
> > > > cameras that have infinite DOF and limited apertures (often don't
> > > > close down to lower than f6.3) so to them, the discipline needed to
> > > > shoot a DSLR or EVIL camera is alien.
>
> > > >http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1041&message=35451698`
>
> > > he needed one of these
>
> > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/40732837(a)N07/4628023291/
>
> > Is that at maximum zoom?
>
> > DanP
>
> yes- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

In 35mm terms that is 840mm.
I have taken this http://www.flickr.com/photos/danpetre/4629841983/ at
250mm, it has been cropped to 390 pixels square.
Yours is cropped to 1024 x 816.

Your day shot looks better than mine but your next does not.
To be fair it could have been better, the settings used (ISO 1600,
1/1250 s and f/8) were not the best choice.
Try ISO 100, 1/250 s and f/5.6 for a night shot of the moon.

The EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS has cost me £140, no warranty. I could
have got it for £180 with warranty.


DanP
From: Val Hallah on 31 May 2010 08:09
On May 31, 1:58 pm, DanP <dan.pe...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On 31 May, 07:45, Val Hallah <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 30, 9:30 pm, DanP <dan.pe...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 30, 6:59 pm, Val Hallah <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 30, 5:58 pm, RichA <rander3...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Perfect example.  Guy shoots a Panasonic GH1 hand-held at 1/3 sec and
> > > > > f16 and wonders why his shots aren't sharp.  P&S's are weaned on
> > > > > cameras that have infinite DOF and limited apertures (often don't
> > > > > close down to lower than f6.3) so to them, the discipline needed to
> > > > > shoot a DSLR or EVIL camera is alien.
>
> > > > >http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1041&message=35451698`
>
> > > > he needed one of these
>
> > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/40732837(a)N07/4628023291/
>
> > > Is that at maximum zoom?
>
> > > DanP
>
> > yes- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> In 35mm terms that is 840mm.
> I have taken thishttp://www.flickr.com/photos/danpetre/4629841983/at
> 250mm, it has been cropped to 390 pixels square.
> Yours is cropped to 1024 x 816.
>
> Your day shot looks better than mine but your next does not.
> To be fair it could have been better, the settings used (ISO 1600,
> 1/1250 s and f/8) were not the best choice.
> Try ISO 100, 1/250 s and f/5.6 for a night shot of the moon.
>
> The EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS has cost me £140, no warranty. I could
> have got it for £180 with warranty.
>
> DanP

thats a nice clear shot!
I'm still experimenting with settings....this months full moon was
covered by clouds...although I'm thinking that a tripod might be a
good idea for my next 'night moon shot'
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