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From: Nell Fenwick on 18 Jul 2010 20:44 "MichaelW" <msjmb(a)tpg.com.au> wrote in message news:28369127-9e1a-4db9-95cc-893a64202bdd(a)c36g2000prf.googlegroups.com... On Jul 19, 3:18 am, JSH <jst...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 18, 10:00 am, "HAL" <mor...(a)mathforum.org> wrote: > > > Why spam the hell out of this newsgroup? You have, > > quite literally, nothing to say, yet you are saying it. > > So you got nothing. > >> I'm a little surprised that hostiles were the first to reply on this >> one, but it may be a hard question: why do math research? >> >> Maybe it seems self-evident to the people who do it? >> >> But why bother? What is the purpose of working on math problems? >> >> Why do it? >> >> James Harris >James, the way you framed the question pre-supposes a certain type of >answer. > >The correct question is why do communities of people do maths >research? > >Regards, Michael W. no, his question is "Why should I do maths research?" one thing JSH does all the time, without meaning to, is psychological projection http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection Simply replace "they" and "them" with JSH or I, etc. in a JSH post. What seems to be a long attack on the maths community in many of his posts, are really JSH expressing self- doubt about his abilities
From: JSH on 18 Jul 2010 21:04 On Jul 18, 5:44 pm, "Nell Fenwick" <inva...(a)invalid.com> wrote: > "MichaelW" <ms...(a)tpg.com.au> wrote in message > > news:28369127-9e1a-4db9-95cc-893a64202bdd(a)c36g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 19, 3:18 am, JSH <jst...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 18, 10:00 am, "HAL" <mor...(a)mathforum.org> wrote: > > > > Why spam the hell out of this newsgroup? You have, > > > quite literally, nothing to say, yet you are saying it. > > > So you got nothing. > > >> I'm a little surprised that hostiles were the first to reply on this > >> one, but it may be a hard question: why do math research? > > >> Maybe it seems self-evident to the people who do it? > > >> But why bother? What is the purpose of working on math problems? > > >> Why do it? > > >> James Harris > >James, the way you framed the question pre-supposes a certain type of > >answer. > > >The correct question is why do communities of people do maths > >research? > > >Regards, Michael W. > > no, his question is "Why should I do maths research?" That actually IS a good question, especially at this point. Why bother? > one thing JSH does all the time, without meaning to, is psychological > projectionhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection > > Simply replace "they" and "them" with JSH or I, etc. in a JSH post. > > What seems to be a long attack on the maths community in many of his posts, > are really JSH expressing self- doubt about his abilities No, I find it disappointing that the mathematical community hasn't to date lived up to its billing and as far as I can tell doesn't care much for mathematics at all, which is kind of odd. People might wonder how that is possible. Well the simplest answer is, they get things to play at being mathematicians, like a math professor at Harvard University is a professor at Harvard University. That in and of itself gives a good deal of prestige, so why should he actually do correct maths if he can get more by being wrong? As the correct math is both simpler and harder. And do people really care if, say, what they learn about twin primes is bollocks? Why would they? Why do math research? Why care if you're right or not? James Harris
From: Aatu Koskensilta on 19 Jul 2010 01:25 JSH <jstevh(a)gmail.com> writes: > Why do math research? It's a very enjoyable pastime. Good clean fun. -- Aatu Koskensilta (aatu.koskensilta(a)uta.fi) "Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, dar�ber muss man schweigen" - Ludwig Wittgenstein, Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus
From: Nell Fenwick on 19 Jul 2010 10:28 "JSH" <jstevh(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:c0702b87-6fab-412e-bb53-f0bde201c5e4(a)s24g2000pri.googlegroups.com... On Jul 18, 5:44 pm, "Nell Fenwick" <inva...(a)invalid.com> wrote: > "MichaelW" <ms...(a)tpg.com.au> wrote in message > > news:28369127-9e1a-4db9-95cc-893a64202bdd(a)c36g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 19, 3:18 am, JSH <jst...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 18, 10:00 am, "HAL" <mor...(a)mathforum.org> wrote: > > > > Why spam the hell out of this newsgroup? You have, > > > quite literally, nothing to say, yet you are saying it. > > > So you got nothing. > > >> I'm a little surprised that hostiles were the first to reply on this > >> one, but it may be a hard question: why do math research? > > >> Maybe it seems self-evident to the people who do it? > > >> But why bother? What is the purpose of working on math problems? > > >> Why do it? > > >> James Harris > >James, the way you framed the question pre-supposes a certain type of > >answer. > > >The correct question is why do communities of people do maths > >research? > > >Regards, Michael W. > > no, his question is "Why should I do maths research?" >That actually IS a good question, especially at this point. So, Why should JSH do maths research ? >Why bother? >> one thing JSH does all the time, without meaning to, is psychological >> projectionhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection >> >> Simply replace "they" and "them" with JSH or I, etc. in a JSH post. >> >> What seems to be a long attack on the maths community in many of his >> posts, >> are really JSH expressing self- doubt about his abilities >No, I find it disappointing that the mathematical community hasn't to >date lived up to its billing and as far as I can tell doesn't care >much for mathematics at all, which is kind of odd. We dont care for YOUR math, so sloppy, sucn an amature, not even good algebra. Have you got that message yet? JSH = Sloppy Math >People might wonder how that is possible. not passing algebra is one cause. Being a troll is another. >Well the simplest answer is, they get things to play at being >mathematicians, who is "they" ? >like a math professor at Harvard University is a >professor at Harvard University. what an intelligent statement. >That in and of itself gives a good >deal of prestige, so why should he actually do correct maths if he can >get more by being wrong? "correct maths" ? how about correct Engrlish ? James Harris
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