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From: |-|ercules on 5 Aug 2010 16:44
"Frederick Williams" <frederick.williams2(a)tesco.net> wrote ...
> |-|ercules wrote:
>>
>> "Frederick Williams" <frederick.williams2(a)tesco.net> wrote
>> > |-|ercules wrote:
>> >
>> >> It's [water's] unique Hydrogen bond giving the characteristic bend in the molecule ...
>> >
>> > What utter rot.
>> >
>>
>> I'm sure my Chemistry teacher said the class of molecule water falls into it should be a gas.
>>
>> What causes the bend then? Even though it's not necessary for the sugar argument.
>>
>> Herc
>>
>
> See Wikipedia:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water#Chemical_and_physical_properties:
>
> "The four electron pairs surrounding the oxygen tend to arrange
> themselves as far from each other as possible in order to minimize
> repulsions between these clouds of negative charge. This would
> ordinarily result in a tetrahedral geometry in which the angle between
> electron pairs (and therefore the H-O-H bond angle) is 109.5�. However,
> because the two non-bonding pairs remain closer to the oxygen atom,
> these exert a stronger repulsion against the two covalent bonding pairs,
> effectively pushing the two hydrogen atoms closer together. The result
> is a distorted tetrahedral arrangement in which the H-O-H angle is
> 104.5�.[12]"
>
> And reference [12]: http://www.chem1.com/acad/sci/aboutwater.html
>
> The "bend" as you call it may facilitate hydrogen bonding, but not vice
> versa.
>


In that case, change "giving" to "from".

Herc

From: spudnik on 6 Aug 2010 14:30
it's like giving or taking candy from a baby?

note that operant conditioning can make sweet, bad;
subset of syneshtesia?

> In that case, change "giving" to "from".

thus:
I totally agree, but he did start out with a good observation, iff and
iff only because I made it, two, a long, long, long time,
ago ... er, got it from Bucky!... so, how do you say that
"counting is dimensional?..." do androids dream of dimensional sheep?

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From: A B on 6 Aug 2010 18:23
"Edmond H. Wollmann" <arcturianone(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:7cidnS37idszG8rRnZ2dnUVZ_hydnZ2d(a)posted.toastnet...
> Did you ever figure out what's on God's mind?
>
> sugar is part of it, it's The law of expansion.

What about TOAST?

From: Autymn D. C. on 7 Aug 2010 08:01
On Aug 6, 11:30 am, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> it's like giving or taking candy from a baby?
>
> note that operant conditioning can make sweet, bad;
> subset of syneshtesia?
>
> > In that case, change "giving" to "from".
>
> thus:
> I totally agree, but he did start out with a good observation, iff and
> iff only because I made it, two, a long, long, long time,
[snip skizofrenic drivel]

iff (that is, "if and only if") is redundant: if is always only if;
otherwise it's when.

-Aut
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