Why these original FORTRAN quirks?
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From: jmfbahciv on 25 Nov 2006 10:49 In article <X_F9h.9403$6t.1832(a)newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>, Gary Scott <garylscott(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: <snip> >Much as I enjoy reading about the ancient history of my favorite >operating system (VM). It has strayed someone in its relevance to >Fortran. Recommend trimming comp.lang.fortran. > OK. I'll try to remember....but you guys are going to miss some laughs. /BAH
From: krw on 25 Nov 2006 11:41 In article <ek9ok7$8qk_015(a)s1007.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says... > In article <1428.554T2490T5455895(a)kltpzyxm.invalid>, > "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs(a)kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote: > >In article <ek6vq3$8qk_009(a)s989.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com (jmfbahciv) writes: > > > >> In article <4slkbgF104q2hU2(a)mid.individual.net>, > >> blmblm(a)myrealbox.com <blmblm(a)myrealbox.com> wrote: > >> > >>> It might be worse than you think: I'm not even sure they all > >>> really understand that compiling has to happen (well, assuming a > >>> compiled rather than an interpreted language). Tools such as Eclipse > >>> (an IDE -- Interactive Development Environment, more on request) > >>> compile on the fly as the user types (presumably so they can more > >>> or less flag errors as they're typed) and/or automatically when > >>> the user clicks the "run" button. I suspect this makes it easy to > >>> not realize that this important step is happening. > >> > >> It's worse than that. There is no concept of machine language. > >> I've talked with people in newsgroup who think it is the ASCII > >> that is executed. Using HLLs exasperated this loss of knowledge. > > > >I think you meant "exacerbated", Barb. > > Yes! Thank you. I knew it was wrong but couldn't my brain to > work. > > > But maybe that's just another > >of your eerily-appropriate typos; this loss of knowledge certainly is > >exasperating. > > > >Malaproptimism n. The belief that everything will come out > >all right in the wash. > > Is that before or after the dye is cast? You're not supposed to use chlorine bleach on dark clothes! -- Keith
From: Charles Richmond on 25 Nov 2006 19:16 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > [snip...] [snip...] [snip...] > > It's worse than that. There is no concept of machine language. > I've talked with people in newsgroup who think it is the ASCII > that is executed. Using HLLs exasperated this loss of knowledge. > Certainly, entropy and stupidity is increasing constantly. The ignorance is *not* the disconcerting thing. The real zinger is that those folks who think ASCII is executed... do *not* want to learn any better. Many are actually proud of their stupidity in such areas. There are cases where I have witnessed this myself. In the days of the EDSAC, the binary instruction code was the *same* byte of information as the character code for the assembly instruction. "A" was the binary for add. But in general of course, the character code is *not* directly executed. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+
From: blmblm@myrealbox.com on 28 Nov 2006 06:31 In article <1428.554T2490T5455895(a)kltpzyxm.invalid>, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs(a)kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote: > In article <ek6vq3$8qk_009(a)s989.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com (jmfbahciv) writes: > > > In article <4slkbgF104q2hU2(a)mid.individual.net>, > > blmblm(a)myrealbox.com <blmblm(a)myrealbox.com> wrote: > > > >> It might be worse than you think: I'm not even sure they all > >> really understand that compiling has to happen (well, assuming a > >> compiled rather than an interpreted language). Tools such as Eclipse > >> (an IDE -- Interactive Development Environment, more on request) > >> compile on the fly as the user types (presumably so they can more > >> or less flag errors as they're typed) and/or automatically when > >> the user clicks the "run" button. I suspect this makes it easy to > >> not realize that this important step is happening. > > > > It's worse than that. There is no concept of machine language. That was more or less the point I was trying to make, yeah. > > I've talked with people in newsgroup who think it is the ASCII > > that is executed. Using HLLs exasperated this loss of knowledge. > > I think you meant "exacerbated", Barb. But maybe that's just another > of your eerily-appropriate typos; this loss of knowledge certainly is > exasperating. Indeed. ("Eerily"? well, appropriate anyway.) > Malaproptimism n. The belief that everything will come out > all right in the wash. > -- B. L. Massingill ObDisclaimer: I don't speak for my employers; they return the favor.
From: Gene Wirchenko on 29 Nov 2006 15:10
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >In article <1428.554T2490T5455895(a)kltpzyxm.invalid>, > "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs(a)kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote: [snip] >>Malaproptimism n. The belief that everything will come out >>all right in the wash. > >Is that before or after the dye is cast? Please do not be so mordant. Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko Computerese Irregular Verb Conjugation: I have preferences. You have biases. He/She has prejudices. |