Win XP X64 to Win 7 Pro 64bit using Nforce4 mobo
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From: miso on 27 Feb 2010 02:11 I'm getting ready to instanll win 7 pro 64bit on my PC that is presently running win XP X64. I have enough room to do a dual boot, though I'm in the process of backing everything up on external drives. (Ya never know!) I have run the windows 7 upgrade advisor (sic) and it seems to be happy with all but my printer. The mobo is a Gigabyte GA-k8N Ultra-9. For the orginal installation, I had to use a floppy to load the device drivers for the software raid. I don't see these drivers for windows 7 listed. I'm assuming since I am doing the dual boot, I can do the installation with X64 running, and just tell windows 7 where to do the installation, so probably I don't need the 3rd party drivers. But I'm inquiring about this just in case. Any useful comments will be appreciated.
From: Charlie Russel - MVP on 27 Feb 2010 10:51 If you're going to dual boot, you need to have a separate partition (disk drive letter) for Win7 to install to. You can't do an "upgrade", however, since you're not removing the existing version of Windows. An upgrade version is only for replacing an existing Windows. (To be clear, you would have to do a clean installation regardless -- there is no inplace upgrade from XP x64 to any later version. But you can use an upgrade copy of Win7 if you start the process from a running XP x64 and replace your existing XP x64. ) -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel <miso(a)sushi.com> wrote in message news:0f91cad8-0d35-4376-a548-ae7ca5035199(a)z10g2000prh.googlegroups.com... > I'm getting ready to instanll win 7 pro 64bit on my PC that is > presently running win XP X64. I have enough room to do a dual boot, > though I'm in the process of backing everything up on external drives. > (Ya never know!) I have run the windows 7 upgrade advisor (sic) and it > seems to be happy with all but my printer. > > The mobo is a Gigabyte GA-k8N Ultra-9. For the orginal installation, I > had to use a floppy to load the device drivers for the software raid. > I don't see these drivers for windows 7 listed. > > I'm assuming since I am doing the dual boot, I can do the installation > with X64 running, and just tell windows 7 where to do the > installation, so probably I don't need the 3rd party drivers. But I'm > inquiring about this just in case. > > Any useful comments will be appreciated.
From: Tom on 27 Feb 2010 14:24 Actually, if he partitions the drive (he didn't say he did, just that he has the space for two OSes), he could put Win7 on a 2nd partition, even if it is in place upgrade, of which it would have to be. But, he would have to break the EULA to do that with his XP x64 disc. You gave the hint on how to do that in your last statement. "Charlie Russel - MVP" <Charlie(a)mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message news:#rayxS8tKHA.4908(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > If you're going to dual boot, you need to have a separate partition (disk > drive letter) for Win7 to install to. You can't do an "upgrade", however, > since you're not removing the existing version of Windows. An upgrade > version is only for replacing an existing Windows. (To be clear, you > would have to do a clean installation regardless -- there is no inplace > upgrade from XP x64 to any later version. But you can use an upgrade copy > of Win7 if you start the process from a running XP x64 and replace your > existing XP x64. ) > > -- > Charlie. > http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel > > > > > <miso(a)sushi.com> wrote in message > news:0f91cad8-0d35-4376-a548-ae7ca5035199(a)z10g2000prh.googlegroups.com... >> I'm getting ready to instanll win 7 pro 64bit on my PC that is >> presently running win XP X64. I have enough room to do a dual boot, >> though I'm in the process of backing everything up on external drives. >> (Ya never know!) I have run the windows 7 upgrade advisor (sic) and it >> seems to be happy with all but my printer. >> >> The mobo is a Gigabyte GA-k8N Ultra-9. For the orginal installation, I >> had to use a floppy to load the device drivers for the software raid. >> I don't see these drivers for windows 7 listed. >> >> I'm assuming since I am doing the dual boot, I can do the installation >> with X64 running, and just tell windows 7 where to do the >> installation, so probably I don't need the 3rd party drivers. But I'm >> inquiring about this just in case. >> >> Any useful comments will be appreciated. >
From: miso on 27 Feb 2010 19:03 On Feb 27, 11:24 am, "Tom" <no...(a)nothere.com> wrote: > Actually, if he partitions the drive (he didn't say he did, just that he has > the space for two OSes), he could put Win7 on a 2nd partition, even if it is > in place upgrade, of which it would have to be. But, he would have to break > the EULA to do that with his XP x64 disc. You gave the hint on how to do > that in your last statement. > > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <Char...(a)mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in messagenews:#rayxS8tKHA.4908(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > > If you're going to dual boot, you need to have a separate partition (disk > > drive letter) for Win7 to install to. You can't do an "upgrade", however, > > since you're not removing the existing version of Windows. An upgrade > > version is only for replacing an existing Windows. (To be clear, you > > would have to do a clean installation regardless -- there is no inplace > > upgrade from XP x64 to any later version. But you can use an upgrade copy > > of Win7 if you start the process from a running XP x64 and replace your > > existing XP x64. ) > > > -- > > Charlie. > >http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel > > > <m...(a)sushi.com> wrote in message > >news:0f91cad8-0d35-4376-a548-ae7ca5035199(a)z10g2000prh.googlegroups.com.... > >> I'm getting ready to instanll win 7 pro 64bit on my PC that is > >> presently running win XP X64. I have enough room to do a dual boot, > >> though I'm in the process of backing everything up on external drives. > >> (Ya never know!) I have run the windows 7 upgrade advisor (sic) and it > >> seems to be happy with all but my printer. > > >> The mobo is a Gigabyte GA-k8N Ultra-9. For the orginal installation, I > >> had to use a floppy to load the device drivers for the software raid. > >> I don't see these drivers for windows 7 listed. > > >> I'm assuming since I am doing the dual boot, I can do the installation > >> with X64 running, and just tell windows 7 where to do the > >> installation, so probably I don't need the 3rd party drivers. But I'm > >> inquiring about this just in case. > > >> Any useful comments will be appreciated. I have a full version of Windows 7 64 bit. Fry's had them on sale last week for basically the price of the upgrade retail version. OEM of course, but I've never got support from Microsoft ever. Most of the time, somebody has already had whatever problem I have, so I get the information on the net. The contributors on usenet often know more than the MS tech group. I already have the partition ready on the hard drive. I'm doing backups by copy instead of the windows backup, except now I recall why I use the windows backup for this task in the past. Every once in a while when copying large blocks of directories the operation hangs up in windows for no good reason. I got a complaint about lack of space, but that just wasn't the case. Now I noticed I forgot to turn off indexing when doing the gigabytes of copying. That someones gives the system headaches. Anyway, I'd kind of like to see all the files on the backup drive before doing the install, rather than one big backup file. Maybe I'll do it both ways. You can't be too careful. As an aside, once in a while a use 7-zip to do the copy and compress at the same time. This is a compromise between just copying files directly and using the windows backup. It seems windows gets bogged down creating lots of files at once, so using 7-zip gets around that problem. I've seen this problem on win2kpro and XP X64, so I don't think it is my hardware. I had a situation where I had to copy a partition with a bit over a million files. The only solution was to boot to partition magic and copy from one drive to the other. The directories were NTFS, so there was no issue with too many files in the directory.
From: Tom on 27 Feb 2010 21:47
<miso(a)sushi.com> wrote in message news:dcc31a14-2d07-43ea-99d8-7cb911359529(a)q15g2000yqj.googlegroups.com... > On Feb 27, 11:24 am, "Tom" <no...(a)nothere.com> wrote: >> Actually, if he partitions the drive (he didn't say he did, just that he >> has >> the space for two OSes), he could put Win7 on a 2nd partition, even if it >> is >> in place upgrade, of which it would have to be. But, he would have to >> break >> the EULA to do that with his XP x64 disc. You gave the hint on how to do >> that in your last statement. >> >> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <Char...(a)mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in >> messagenews:#rayxS8tKHA.4908(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >> > If you're going to dual boot, you need to have a separate partition >> > (disk >> > drive letter) for Win7 to install to. You can't do an "upgrade", >> > however, >> > since you're not removing the existing version of Windows. An upgrade >> > version is only for replacing an existing Windows. (To be clear, you >> > would have to do a clean installation regardless -- there is no inplace >> > upgrade from XP x64 to any later version. But you can use an upgrade >> > copy >> > of Win7 if you start the process from a running XP x64 and replace your >> > existing XP x64. ) >> >> > -- >> > Charlie. >> >http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel >> >> > <m...(a)sushi.com> wrote in message >> >news:0f91cad8-0d35-4376-a548-ae7ca5035199(a)z10g2000prh.googlegroups.com... >> >> I'm getting ready to instanll win 7 pro 64bit on my PC that is >> >> presently running win XP X64. I have enough room to do a dual boot, >> >> though I'm in the process of backing everything up on external drives. >> >> (Ya never know!) I have run the windows 7 upgrade advisor (sic) and it >> >> seems to be happy with all but my printer. >> >> >> The mobo is a Gigabyte GA-k8N Ultra-9. For the orginal installation, I >> >> had to use a floppy to load the device drivers for the software raid. >> >> I don't see these drivers for windows 7 listed. >> >> >> I'm assuming since I am doing the dual boot, I can do the installation >> >> with X64 running, and just tell windows 7 where to do the >> >> installation, so probably I don't need the 3rd party drivers. But I'm >> >> inquiring about this just in case. >> >> >> Any useful comments will be appreciated. > > I have a full version of Windows 7 64 bit. Fry's had them on sale last > week for basically the price of the upgrade retail version. OEM of > course, but I've never got support from Microsoft ever. Most of the > time, somebody has already had whatever problem I have, so I get the > information on the net. The contributors on usenet often know more > than the MS tech group. > > I already have the partition ready on the hard drive. > > I'm doing backups by copy instead of the windows backup, except now I > recall why I use the windows backup for this task in the past. Every > once in a while when copying large blocks of directories the > operation hangs up in windows for no good reason. I got a complaint > about lack of space, but that just wasn't the case. > > Now I noticed I forgot to turn off indexing when doing the gigabytes > of copying. That someones gives the system headaches. Anyway, I'd kind > of like to see all the files on the backup drive before doing the > install, rather than one big backup file. Maybe I'll do it both ways. > You can't be too careful. > > As an aside, once in a while a use 7-zip to do the copy and compress > at the same time. This is a compromise between just copying files > directly and using the windows backup. It seems windows gets bogged > down creating lots of files at once, so using 7-zip gets around that > problem. I've seen this problem on win2kpro and XP X64, so I don't > think it is my hardware. I had a situation where I had to copy a > partition with a bit over a million files. The only solution was to > boot to partition magic and copy from one drive to the other. The > directories were NTFS, so there was no issue with too many files in > the directory. > > Since you have a full copy, you are definitely good to go with the installation. OEM versions (as you pointed out), don't get MS support, hence why they are much less expensive then the retail. The bad part, once you install it to that machine, it is tied to that machine. IOWs, it cannot (according to the EULA), be even removed and then installed on another machine, like the retail version can. |